Smoking advice "Help Needed"

[Captain Kong]

When they gave cigarettes to survivors during WW2 most of them died.


From the records of the SS FANA a Norwegian cargo ship in WW2. she was sold to J. Bruce of Glasgow and renamed ALPERA
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" were able to transfer 37 survivors to a patrol boat which had arrived from shore. Some of the survivors had died in the lifeboat after having been given a cigarette, and Fana's rescuers were later told by the doctor, who had previously served in the U.S. Navy during battles in the Pacific, that he had had the same experiences with regard to giving cigarettes to survivors; they simply died. This was thought to be caused by them having inhaled the gasses resulting from the oil covered water while swimming in it, and a cigarette after that caused their heart to stop."
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So if you are on a cruise ship that sinks, Do Not HAVE A CIGGY. when you are rescued.

Brian.
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[Jim Brady]

Yes I was glad to give Graham advice some months ago and telling him that I had cracked it.Unfortunately I'm having some building work done at the moment and although I'm only having the odd roll I'm back on them.Once this work is finished I'l be back to the clinic!!!
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

Naughty Jim, Naughty.

[Chris Allman]

You are feeding the nicotine devil again and he will soon grow strong and rule your life again if you dont stop.

Chris

[Les Woodard]

Graham I think you have solved the reason that there is so much anger among passengers on airlines. Okay so there are still smokers out there and why the heck do we still insist that all area's be smoke free surely they can dedicate one area for smokers with the appropriate ventilation. We can drink alcohol and shoot up drugs even have sex (now that would really make a smoker yearn for one) and such but take out one fag and you are the worlds worse because of so many bloody reformed smokers insisting on reforming others. Face up to it there are those that have lived and are living to a ripe old age and have smoked all their lives so just because a some of us do not have the genes in our system to withstand smoking why should we condemn them.

Just want to point out that we are all different so why the feck do we insist on everyone living in a world made up of clones of ourselves. I am bloody glad that there are so many variations of the human being it is what we call living in a diverse life style and not a robotic one.

[John Arton]

Wifey and me are both heavy smokers. My smoking led to me having a very mild stroke in 08 but I have still been unable to stop. Both of us really enjoy our ciggies and are aware of the dangers.
We have now decided to attempt to stop, not just for health reasons but also because our clothes tend to stink of stale baccy and the house needs constant cleaning. I am unhappy with the PC brigade who have forced the smokers out into the cold here in the U.K. On holiday in Portugal recently despite them supposodly having to obey the same EU rules as we do in the U.K., in restruants so long as you were eating outside (temp 30deg plus) it was o.k. for you to light up, even if there were children around.
Made me think of moving to there!
To assist us we have brought electronic ciggys called VIP where you can get filters with strength tailored to your favourite brand and I must admit first impressions seem good. Tried it last night and after one go did not feel like having a ciggy for ages.
Time will tell, just hope I don't turn into one of those avid anti-smokers who have given up the weed!
rgds
JA

[Jim Brady]

Good luck to you John on your endeavour.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Ivan Cloherty]

[QUOTE=Les Woodard;96620]Graham I think you have solved the reason that there is so much anger among passengers on airlines. Okay so there are still smokers out there and why the heck do we still insist that all area's be smoke free surely they can dedicate one area for smokers with the appropriate ventilation. We can drink alcohol and shoot up drugs even have sex (now that would really make a smoker yearn for one) and such but take out one fag and you are the worlds worse because of so many bloody reformed smokers insisting on reforming others. Face up to it there are those that have lived and are living to a ripe old age and have smoked all their lives so just because a some of us do not have the genes in our system to withstand smoking why should we condemn them.

Just want to point out that we are all different so why the feck do we insist on everyone living in a world made up of clones of ourselves. I am bloody glad that there are so many variations of the human being it is what we call living in a diverse life style and not a robotic one.[/QUOTE]

Les you have the right to your opinion and I respect that, but just occasionaly dwell on the other side of the coin. My first wife, was a non smoker and non drinker, she didn't need it, she was a lively bubbly person, small, active always doing things for others died when aged only 50, cause of death, cancer in both lungs and the liver, brought on by "passive smoking" from her work environment. From diagnosis to death was four months, not only devastating for me after 28 years of honeymoon but much worse for my two teenage daughters, the job of telling your children about the diagnosis and life expectancy, is not a job I would wish on my worst enemy. Whilst I appreciate that people like a smoke and that is their right and I would never dream of trying to reform them,I do think that some of the restrictions placed on smoking in public places has a place in society which benefits non smokers and smokers alike, albeit that the smokers may not recognise it as such.

As for smoking on planes with a section for smokers, great in theory but never worked in practice, I did thousands upon thousands of miles by air in an earlier life flying from port to port looking after ships, if you got a seat in the three back rows of the non-smoking section (you didn't always have a choice of seat) you may as well have been in the middle of the smokers for all the difference it made.

So sometimes a little bit of public conformity can be a good thing, although I do recognise that that is not always the case. I am a non smoker so my opinion and views may not be as untainted as they could possibly be

Rgds Ivan

[Chris Allman]

just hope I don't turn into one of those avid anti-smokers who have given up the weed!
rgds
JA

If you do, you will be a lot healthier John - dont knock it till you have tried it - oh by the way it cuts down dramatically on the home decorating too as you dont have to decorate as often, no brown stains on the ceilings and walls, now come on that must be an incentive

Chris.

[Capt Bill Davies]

Sometimes sound advice from a friend or someone who you respect is all that is needed.
Prior to 69 I was a heavy smoker, heavy being 60 Senior Service pd.
In 69 I was Master of the SS Phoenix when I received an unexpected and unannounced visitor whilst discharging in some Canadian port in the form of the owner Dan Ludwig. I found him on the Bridge sitting drinking coffee at 0600 attired in his standard khaki drill.
He gave me a fatherly like chat/warning on the perils of smoking for some 30 minutes and that was unusual for a man who rarely ventured far from business at hand.
Needless to say I have not touched a cigarette since that day for which I will be eternally (pardon the pun) grateful.
Subsequently found out he left the bulk of his vast fortune to the Jari Foundation (Research in Cancer).

Brgds

Bill