Logging & Fines

[Graham Payne]

Hi All, does anyone know where all the monies from Logging's & Fines went ? It must have come to a fair amount of money over the years, as far as I'm aware nobody knows. What did the Shipping Companies do with ALL this cash? ( OUR CASH ) There should be a audit of this somewhere ?

[Jim Brady]

Graham,were'nt these monies donated to the Widows and Orphans of Merchant Navy personnel.
I can't remember the name of the charity now.Was it something like The King Alfred Scty?
Regards.
Jim.B.

[jimmys]

Jim was that not the Royal Alfred Seamans Society. I dont know if the money went to them or not.

One I was involved in a lot of the fines and loggings were removed on review by the Board of Trade. A lot of them did not stand investigation.

regards
jimmy

[Jim Brady]

Jimmys,your right it was the Royal Alfred,thats where I always believed the money went to.
Iv'e just checked out their website they are still carrying out sterling work for ex RN and MN people in nead of care.They wont be getting anything from loggings in this day and age.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

I believe Loggings were done away with around forty years ago, give or take a few years.

[robpage]

In an effort to stamp out gambling the Skipper logged the ships bookie , and the story goes ( Union Castle - Windsor Castle ) that the bookie offered double or quits , and lost on the cut of the cards .

I was always told that the fines went to the Royal Al;fred , used to be a days pay and a days leave lost , if my memory is working correctly , so what happened did the charity get two days pay , or the one

[Neil Morton]

Perhaps Capt. Whittaker can solve the query.!

[jimmys]

Even though I cannot answer the original question I do know that as more personnel, officers and crews moved to company contract with monthly salary it became very difficult to deduct fines from their wages.
The contracts I was on I paid all bills by cheque, bar , subs, etc. I am afraid if I had been fined they could sing for it. A lot of Texaco contract crews were on same contract as me. Just different wages and maybe seniority leave.

regards
jimmy

[Wally Kozak]

to whom it may concern, my other nickname when i was in the merchant navy 1969 - 1980 was the Lumberjack-always getting logged hit port,go on the piss fall in love (again)but that what it was about in in those days,young, single,and thought we knew it all, good luck always Wally kozak (Kojak)

[Pete Leonard (Bruno)]

I was on a ship in 1952 working on a US military contract transporting vehicles between Japan and Korea. As you can imagine not much time was spent at sea on that run. Japan in those days was a magical place for a run ashore. So most of the lads had live in girl friends ashore in Yokohama and Kobe, and would very often go adrift for a day or so. The skipper was very laid back about this and as long as there was a skeleton crew in each department he was happy.He would automatically log you whatever the fine was in those days, plus a days pay for each day adrift. We had an engine room fire in Masan and were towed back to Nagasaki and paid off. The skipper scrubbed all the loggings bar one.This was given to the catering dept.for walking off the ship en bloc in Yokohama after the cook had an altercation with one of the engineers. As this action was frowned on a bit, the skipper was obliged to call in the British Consul,who endorsed the log book.What a great guy he was.