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    You must have good wages in Melbourne John, because most living in N.S.W. are struggling to survive on theirs.
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    Des, it is the same down here, but as to manufacturing it was the push by some unions for higher wages that pushed so many businesses off shore.
    The car industry was killed off here by high prices, a result of high wages, which saw better quality cars coming in from overseas often cheaper than those made here.

    One of the biggest costs many do not think of are the 'on costs' to employers to cover super, work cover etc. it adds 30% to the wages bill and no other country has such Haigh on costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j.sabourn View Post
    There was a post on the MN defence course brought about mainly by the Cuban Crisis. Those who did the course some mentioned ABC warfare and others didnít. Those who remember will also note that biological warfare was being taught in 1962. JS.
    John, I remember doing a few days in Gravesend as a peanut on biological and nuclear warfare, If you remember if you where in a nuclear situation you would and i take it ,it still stands today be given a band to wear around your shoulder or arm and if it changed colour you got of the deck ASAP As you where sailing through nuclear fall out. The procedure as i recall was to have ships hoses rigged on the fore peak and the idea was to spray sea water over the whole of the ship from fore to aft, Sounds good in theory whether it would work is another question. Terry
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    Hi Terry.
    When you look back there were some stupid ideas to stop contamination, but did they learn? Not by the pharmaceuticals Companies it wasn't
    They knew in the 30s about asbestos, but court action recently has revealed that Johnson and Johnson have been putting crushed asbestos in baby talc powder, how evil was that.
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    #34. Asbestosis and the claims for were quite a few years ago now. On British Shipping there was a time limit put on claims for such which has since passed many years ago. I have no doubt there are still people dying from as the laws of disease doesn’t align to times for mortality.Shipping was one of the things which had a lot of asbestos in their structures. There is always a song and dance about it , but how many of us are walking time bombs unbeknown to us , waiting for it to show it’s ugly head. The days of holding your employer responsible are long past. And most normal people don’t have the money or the will to take private legal action. JS
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    Many of us had those asbestos lagged steam pipes running through our cabins, some only a couple of feet away if in the top bunk, but what did we know then! hung our clothes on them to dry in foul weather.

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    Ivan, as long as the fibres are contained and not freely floating around in the air, it is still out there a plenty.
    Cast your mind back, if ever in the engine room during manouevering, especially going astern, the stuff used to flutter down on the control platform like a snow storm. Remember also asbestos gloves (always ragged finger ends) and sheets of asbestos cloth to crawl over to get into furnaces while still mad hot. Asbestos valve packing and jointing - the list goes on.
    The authorities (governments) have been aware of the dangers of asbestos since 1913 or thereabouts and what was done? sweet FA!
    I think it was sometime in the 80s when they started to put little warning tickets in the boxes of new brake pads, clutches etc. So many products containing it still around but there's less risk if it is contained, it is when it is disturbed that problems arise, so, if the ceilings in your house were Artexed by any chance , before the mid 90s, then there is a good chance it contains asbestos.

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    #27.. even the fire blanket in the galley. JS
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    Just after the war many quick build hoses were made from this stuff.
    In Oz, particularly in the state of NSW there were at one time so many houses made this way though they are now all gone.
    Wonder if at the time any one thought about the dangers of this?
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