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28th April 2020, 03:18 PM
#11
Re: Submarines.
I've just had a look online Vic, I was right with the ID it was I-400, there's a good write up and photo on Wikipedia, because of its size and shape
the sub had quite a few drawbacks one being a relatively shallow dive, it's an interesting read, cheers
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29th April 2020, 08:11 PM
#12
Re: Submarines.
John S. Re German prisms. Their periscopes and binoculars may have been the best but how was this for a piece of dead reckoning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Venturer_(P68)
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29th April 2020, 08:18 PM
#13
Re: Submarines.
Posts #7,Vic & #9John. I found this in a book Men-Of-War.
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30th April 2020, 01:08 PM
#14
Re: Submarines.

Originally Posted by
Bill Morrison
Posts #7,Vic & #9John. I found this in a book Men-Of-War.
Thank you for the info Bill, for me the illustrations in the book highlights just how much the world has changed in the last 80 years, in their day
those subs would have been seen as groundbreaking technology, it makes me wonder how things will look in another eighty years time, cheers.
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1st May 2020, 05:40 AM
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Re: Submarines.
John if the world carries on for much longer the way it is, apart from the Virus, it may well not be here in 80 years.
So those subs might not be needed.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller

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1st May 2020, 06:41 AM
#16
Re: Submarines.
The original advantage of submarines was to come and go undetected. Then came Sonar for noise , then thermal imaging. Now all they have to do to neutralise them is to stick something on them the size of a watch battery to know where it is. They do it with whales and sharks, easy enough to drop one down your trouser leg whilst doing a guided tour around. As long as it isnt something else you drop down your trouser leg as one gets older. This is what I fail to understand when the government of a country puts out to tender the building of any warship to foreign competition. It then appears in Janes fighting ships for those too lazy to find out its particulars.. JS.
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1st May 2020, 08:57 AM
#17
Re: Submarines.
John, while it is highly unlikely that a nuclear submarine would allow visitors for tours, there would be other opportunities.
I was the Barrow yard where the first Astute class sub was being built. In fact I stood right in front of it in the shed, this was the day before Princess Anne was due to carry out the naming ceremony.
My point is, I got into that yard with minimal hassle unlike Sellafield Nuclear site a few miles down the road where there is extensive security and several hurdles to jump before being allowed in (always escorted).
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1st May 2020, 09:19 AM
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Re: Submarines.
Tony, many moons ago when I lived in Greenock and was a member of the WSS, we visited Faslane and boarded one of the Polaris submarines.
We were in the control room and the depth guage was uncovered, I asked if that was the depth she could dive to? The guy showing us around said that should have been covered, you didn't see ir did you? No.
Tied up along side was a Yank boat, the entrance to their sub was covered with a BT type trench covering with a sailor in slouch position.
The RN guy was most critical about the Yanks, didn't trust, mostly high on drugs. RNtwo cans a day.
Vic
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1st May 2020, 09:55 AM
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Re: Submarines.
Vic if you had been there in 1979 you might have seen me as well. You weren’t that old bloke who used to sit on a Public bench seat on Custom House Quay drinking something out of a bottle disguised as a newspaper were you. Just joking was maybe a cop in disguise watching me. Cheers JS.
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1st May 2020, 03:14 PM
#20
Re: Submarines.

Originally Posted by
happy daze john in oz
John if the world carries on for much longer the way it is, apart from the Virus, it may well not be here in 80 years.
So those subs might not be needed.
Was waiting for that John, Que Sera Sera, cheers
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