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    Dig deep, France was threatening to supply Peru, which was a strong supporter of the Junta/
    The French Government owned 51% of Dasult.
    The French were playing both sides.
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    France is taking the brunt of this post, they did co-operate with us and work with the enemy at the same time.
    Belguim refused point bank to sell us (UK) bullets and ammo.
    Spain was anti us and for the Argentinians.
    Only the Americans supplied us with hardware.
    Who needs the EU? Not us
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    I think that the whole world thought but the British Lion has lost its teeth and died chewing away at its cage . Within hours The Royal Navy was heading south . The airforce were called in and asked if they could bomb the runway and crazily agreed against all the odds putting together 5 planes that has started to be scrapped . They pulled merchant ships and all kinds of things together and head it off and at that time remembering it well as the ferry that I was on was being measured up by the Royal Navy looking for ferries for Active Service I felt that that was a time when yet again Britain stood alone I didn't feel particularly the warm embrace of Uncle Sam or are European allies or NATO standing beside us and to be perfectly honest I thought Margaret Thatcher had bitten off more than even she could chew . So when you look back in history a Darkest Hour has often been when we are standing alone and when you look back in history that is when the brave British forces and the brave people of this country are at their st6rongest . My argument is based solely on the exocet missile killed people the missile was supplied by France and Dassult technicians from a company whose majority shareholding is held by the French government were complicit and correcting faults in the exocet system . Because of their actions British people sailors from the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy died .
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic mcclymont View Post
    France is taking the brunt of this post, they did co-operate with us and work with the enemy at the same time.
    Belguim refused point bank to sell us (UK) bullets and ammo.
    Spain was anti us and for the Argentinians.
    Only the Americans supplied us with hardware.
    Who needs the EU? Not us
    Vic
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    Quote Originally Posted by robpage View Post
    My argument is based solely on the exocet missile killed people the missile was supplied by France and Dassult technicians from a company whose majority shareholding is held by the French government were complicit and correcting faults in the exocet system . Because of their actions British people sailors from the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy died .
    One of my shipmates that I was in basic training with (same class) 1976 was killed aboard HMS SHEFFIELD by Exocet strike in 1982 - Lest we forget.


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    No one can say the Falklands campaign was not a great victory. It was a shame that it ever came to conflict in the first place. A lot of young men from both sides died.
    You had a military Junta in Argentina who needed something to take peoples minds off the state of the Argentina economy. So they thought an invasion of the Falklands would achieve this and for a time it did.
    You also had an increasingly unpopular government in the UK had a similar problem and to the victor went the spoils. The Iron Lady gambled and, won 3 terms in office. Politicians yet again playing with young men's lives to further there own political career. Blair could be accused of doing the same thing.
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    In his memoirs, former UK Defence Secretary Sir John Nott describes France as Britain's "greatest ally" during the Falklands

    Before the war, France sold Argentina's military junta five Exocet missiles.

    At the time, few suspected that the regime's longstanding claim on the Falklands would lead to war, and the sale went largely unnoticed. But when in May 1982 these Exocet missiles were used to strike Britain's HMS Sheffield and Atlantic Conveyor, with the loss of 32 British lives, near panic ensued in London.

    At the start of the conflict, France's left-leaning president, Francois Mitterrand, had come to Britain's aid by declaring an embargo on French arms sales and assistance to Argentina.

    He also allowed the Falklands-bound British fleet to use French port facilities in West Africa, as well as providing London with detailed information about planes and weaponry his country had sold to Buenos Aires.

    Paris also co-operated with extensive British efforts to stop Argentina acquiring any more Exocets on the world's arms market.

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    #43.. I had occasion to sail with one of those survivors off the Sheffield , which is the correct ship as I remember, he had vivid memories about it , and was thrown again into another situation which brought back memories , and after receiving his George Medal decided he was pushing his luck too far. Ask him about Exocets. I sometimes have Occassion to cross his path, but keep off the questions and answers bit. He told me his thoughts in confidence and that’s where they stay. JWS

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    Re the other post going on. Fouro askeda question about statements. Sorry Fouro but I don’t have the means of replying. To your post. So hopethatin itself answers your question. Cheers JWS.

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    Hi All.
    Don't worry too much about it all, come around 2030 and I can see Britain getting back some of the 100,0000,000 pounds or so in foreign aid from India.
    Then they can buy plenty of Naval ships, maybe from China, or some other equally well off country.
    Cheers Des

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