Even our RN lads get shafted

[John Arton]

I see in todays papers that the M.O.D has overpaid some 450 or so, Royal Naval Ratings by 1.2 million pounds.
Now these are the lads that around the world and at home, are helping to protect our way of life.
So what is the massively bloated, over inflated and inefficeint M.O.D. going to do about this?. Write it off as in the scheme of things its a piffling amount compared to the amounts the M.O.D wastes on a DAILY basis?
Of course not, they are deducting it from there wages, taking it over a period of time. One poor guy actually "owes" them £17000, so how long will it take to pay that off?
To recover that amount all they had to do wAsack one or two of the highly paid bloaters at the top and they would have recovered it almost immediatley.
Does it not want you to mount a raid on HMS Belfast, take over, train her guns on Whitehall and fire a couple of broadsides at the idiots who inhabit the place.
rgds
JA

[Captain Kong]

I know the feeling John.
when I retired the Agents that ESSO use to pay my pension overpaid me for three years, Then they sent me a bill for nearly £2000 To Be Paid With Immediate Effect.
I contacted NUMAST Legal Department being a member.
`Nothing to do with us , they said We cannot help you.`
I got onto ESSO Personnel Department. `Sorry, nothing to do with us.`
I got onto the Agent, `I did not make the mistake, the clerk who made the mistake should pay the money`.
They say, `We are going to deduct it from your Pension anyway, nothing you can do about it.`
I demanded to see the TOP MAN, I do not negotiate with clerks.
I eventually got the BIG MAN
and had a good talk with him. He conceeded that mistakes had been made and settled for half the amount, £1000 to be deducted at a few pounds a month over two years. So I was fairly happy with that.
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In the case of the MoD then the clerks who made the overpayment should be sacked, without severence pay and pension rights.
All the MoD Staff have recently been paid extremely large Bonuses, and you can bet the Clerks who made the mistakes are still there collecting large salaries and Bonuses and earning a hell of a lot more than the Marines who put their lives on the line for the safety of the MoD clerks and the country.
This news is never on main line TV News, no one knows about it.
Brian

[vic mcclymont]

If the money is to be repaid (I don't believe it should) take it out of the bonuses paid to the MOD bigwigs. After all the bonus was paid for the efficient running of a department and is not meant to cover failure. This in my opinion is a failure.

[robpage]

I have had this problem several times , where a wages clerk has overpaid a guy due to a miscalculation , normally in the case of overtime , In the eyes of the law the company is allowed to deduct any repayment in full at the first opportunity . It seems to be that you should realise if you are overpaid , highlight it and repay it . the principle seems to be that if you were underpaid you would know and be demanding immediate restoration of the missing sum . Pitifully there is a vast divide between what is morally right and what is legally right .

[Captain Kong]

What happened in my case Rob , was I was recieving the full pension from ESSO then when I was 65 I recieved State pension, so the ESSO Pension was supposed to be adjusted downwards to make allowance for this, I never noticed as I was still recieving the same amount and neither did they, so it accumilated.
Brian.

[robpage]

I had several engineers in my department , and most of them knew what their overtime was to within the pound each week , one guy knew his to within the 1/10th of a penny . The overtime was at different rates , 1 1/4 . 1 1/3, 1 1/2 , 1 1 3/4 and 2 , depending on day and which side of midnight , So when they checked their Gross there was always a disagreement if they were short , and on the occasions where they had been overpaid they never noticed it , So if it was a few pounds , the wages clerk used to deduct it the week after , and they , when paid cash , used to get really shitty with her at the pay hatch , so over the years I lost sympathy , we all make mistakes , especially where the system was complex . We had one guy who on weekly pay was paid a lot over at least £100 and did not realise he had extra money in his pay packet , Yes !!! I believed him ,

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi Shipmates, The man who gives allso takes ? we are just small clogs in The big wheel. or you make a mistake your sacked I make a mistake you pay. {You cant beat the man}

[Ron Kendall]

HMS Centurion, which is the Royal Navy pay centre, has made mistakes for years. When I got paid as a CPO in the Sea Cadets, I once got paid twice for one course at HMS Raleigh. they spotted it first, and asked for it back. this was done by my bank, and for months after, I was polluted by requests for repayment, it was only after I told them I was not going to pay twice, and that I was going to contact my MP, that they conceded that a mistake had occured, and I did not owe them anything.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Two cow's:

If your dad knew of this kerfuffle, he would turn in his gravy.

All that is Balder dash and piffle ?

K.