Search on FRED MARSDEN

[Peter Ge]

Morning Team from deep down south in Dunedin, NZ.
Firstly thanks for admittance into the forum - great to be here and looking around.

I am on the search for info on a Grandfather as part of our family research; the first one (ABS A. Gee) served in the RN WWI and WWII (MIA 11MAY1942 onboard HMS Lively); is now completed.

The second one is proving harder to determine where he went and what he did. I do however have the following information:
- Name - Fred Marsden (that is his full name)
- DOB 03NOV1888 @ Chorley, Lancashire.
- DOD 08SEP1966 @ Wesham Park Hospital, Kirkham, Lancashire.
- Served in the RN during WWI possibly as a gunner or seaman; thus far have only managed to track down service records for the RNVR (Mersey Division) where is was (No. Z2719)
- Then there is a big gap and no records but apparently in early WWII he joined the Merchant Navy doing convoy runs up through to Archangel.
- Thence he was down with the Merchant Navy in Nairobi where he caught Malaria.
- On recovery from that, he left the Merchant, returning London and became a volunteer fireman.

Can anyone shed any light on Fred's time in the Merchant Navy?

Appreciated, Pete

[Doc Vernon]

Hi
Thanks for the query.
Unfortunately thus far I have had no luck,looked through my normal channels.
But will try again later who knows!
At FMP there seems to be no records for him,as well as the NA ??
Cheers

So you have this record of him then

Name Marsden, Fred Service Number: Z/2719 RNVR Division: Mersey Date... | The National Archives

[Keith at Tregenna]

Initially, just need to confirm the following is accurate -

- DOB 03NOV1888 @ Chorley, Lancashire.
- DOD 08SEP1966 @ Wesham Park Hospital, Kirkham, Lancashire.

Is this something found in searches or definitely known ?

Similar for: Served in the RN during WWI ?

To cross reference, possibly his parents names, wedding / wife, children would help,

The name is quite common for the area at the time with a birth in that
name alone shows up each year for 3 or 4 years.

If a gunner assigned to an MN ship he would be hard to trace.

Hope to hear from you soon and will do all pos to assist.

Keith.


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[Keith at Tregenna]

Adding as an example.

Fred Marsden
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration:
1888
Chorley, Lancashire, England

Fred Marsden
Son
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth:
1889
Chorley, Lancashire
residence:
1911
Blackpool, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
mother:
Jane Ann Marsden
other:
Henry Dornan, William Bebbington, Florrie Bebbington


Fred Marsden
Son
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth:
1889
Chorley, Lancashire
residence:
31 March 1901
Chorley, Lancashire, England
father:
Thomas Marsden
mother:
Jane A Marsden
other:
James Holme

K.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Hi
Thanks for the query.
Unfortunately thus far I have had no luck,looked through my normal channels.

Hi Doc.

Apart from Fred, starting to look at Alfred, F, Freddie and Frederick.

Adding as an update for now only.

Closest yet seems to be:

Frederick William Marsden
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records
Name
Frederick William Marsden
Event Type
Military Service
Event Year Range
1918-1921
Event Place
United Kingdom
Birthplace
Cumberland
Birth Year
1888

Fingers still crossed and trying.

Regards,

Keith.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Fingers still crossed and trying.

Regards,

Keith.

Fred Marsden
United Kingdom, Militia Service Records
Fred Marsden

birth:
1888
Lanc
military service:
United Kingdom

Fred Marsden
United Kingdom, Militia Service Records, 1806-1915
birth:
1885
Lancashire
military service:
United Kingdom

?

K.


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[Keith at Tregenna]

Cannot do much more yet without more from Peter,
we do work with those that enquire for best results.

Hopefully, more will come if on track.

Regards,

Keith.

[Peter Ge]

Morning and apologies for my delayed responses; have been away on holidays and out of decent comms. Yes have this record but it took a while to decipher. Initially I was advised that he was RN but it seems that he was definitely RNVR and wouldve been on couple of shore bases (Victory VI, Victory I and Excellent) but also served onboard HMS Maldovia.

[Peter Ge]

Initially, just need to confirm the following is accurate -

- DOB 03NOV1888 @ Chorley, Lancashire.
- DOD 08SEP1966 @ Wesham Park Hospital, Kirkham, Lancashire.

Is this something found in searches or definitely known ?

Similar for: Served in the RN during WWI ?

To cross reference, possibly his parents names, wedding / wife, children would help,

The name is quite common for the area at the time with a birth in that
name alone shows up each year for 3 or 4 years.

If a gunner assigned to an MN ship he would be hard to trace.

Hope to hear from you soon and will do all pos to assist.

Keith.


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Hi Keith, the title of gunner was passed on to me from the family so not confirmed; from his military records he completed his time in the RNVR as an Able Seaman.
As to family connections:
Freds parents – Thomas and Jane Ann Marsden (nee Leech).
Married – Sarah Alice Marsden (nee Griffiths) @ Hinckley (Leicestershire) 30AUG1928.
Children - Definitely at least one daughter named Shirley.
Died – Wesham Park Hospital, Kirkham, Lancashire 08SEP1966 (aged 77 yrs).
Thats is all that I have unfortunately.
Pete

[Peter Ge]

Hi Doc.

Apart from Fred, starting to look at Alfred, F, Freddie and Frederick.

Adding as an update for now only.

Closest yet seems to be:

Frederick William Marsden
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records
Name
Frederick William Marsden
Event Type
Military Service
Event Year Range
1918-1921
Event Place
United Kingdom
Birthplace
Cumberland
Birth Year
1888

Fingers still crossed and trying.

Regards,

Keith.

Morning, definitely WWII for his service in Merchant Navy during 1939 until he was sick. He went back to London after that and was a Auxilary Fireman there in 1940.
Regards.