Trying to get information on a cousin John Maciver, born 1921, died on S.S.Baron Erskine

[alison macrae]

Trying to get more information on a cousin John Maciver, who was born in 1921, and died on S.S.Baron Erskine by a torpedo U-boat 701, January 6, 1942, he was 21, and no survivors on the Erskine. Would love to know when he joined up? and was this the only boat he was on Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

[Marian Gra]

Hello Alison, Welcome to the site, will have a wee look to see what can be found

Looks like he joined March/April 1937

Name: John MacIver
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1921
Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland
Death Date: 10 Jan 1942
Death Place: At Sea
Rank: Third Engr. Offr.
Mother: Hannah maiden name?
56, James Nisbet St, Glasgow

Name: John MacIver
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1921
Death Date: 10 Jan 1942
Cemetery: The Tower Hill Memorial Part X Mcll-Miz
Burial Country: England
Father: John MacIver
Mother: Annebella MacIver
Region or Memorial: Memorial Register

Name: John Maciver
Gender: Male
Nationality: British
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1937
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Francisco
Rank: Petty Mess
Length of Service 7mths

And again

Name: John Maciver
Gender: Male
Nationality: British
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 23 Oct 1938
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Francisco
Rank: Bath Stwd.................Not sure if this is the same John! Length of sv given as 2yrs and there is a height difference of 3'' could be a mistake of course?

New Orleans, Passenger Lists, 1813-1963

Name: John MacIver
Arrival Date: 15 Jun 1941
Port of Arrival: United States
Birth Date: abt 1920
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nationality: British
Port of Departure: Barrow In Furness
Ship Name: Baron Graham
Race: (Scottish)
Rank: 4th Engr.
Length of Service 1yr 2mths
Height: 5'6'' Weight: 144lbs

Have to go out now will be back later

[Keith at Tregenna]

Third Engineer Officer
MACIVER, JOHN
Died 10/01/1942
Aged 21
S.S. Baron Erskine (Ardrossan)
Merchant Navy
Son of John and Annabella Maciver. of Glasgow.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...maciver,-john/

You are able to: Download commemorative certificate (PDF) on this page / link above.

Keith.

[alison macrae]

Thanks for this great information. His Mother was Annabelle, The Tower Hill is where the memorial of him and the crew are listed. So he was just a teenager when he signed up. So young.

[Marian Gra]

Few more trips on the Francisco Alison, and as you say just a boy.

Name: John MacIver
Gender: Male
Nationality: British
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1937
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Francisco
Rank: Petty Mess
Length of Service: 6mths


Name: John MacIver
Gender: Male
Nationality: British
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 25 Sep 1938
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Francisco

From Find My Past: Think this is him but cannot open link to check for sure

Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Series BT364
First name(s) John
Last name MacIver
Event year 1918-41
Discharge number 2882
Discharge number prefix R
Card type CR2
Archive The National Archives
Date range 1918-1941

[Doc Vernon]

Nice info so far but its funny that I cannot find anything on his Records at the NA Kew??
Very odd this!
I will try another source later and see if anything comes up
Cheers

[Keith at Tregenna]

Trying to get more information on a cousin John Maciver, who was born in 1921, and died on S.S.Baron Erskine by a torpedo U-boat 701, January 6, 1942, he was 21, and no survivors on the Erskine. Would love to know when he joined up? and was this the only boat he was on Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

Would you or other family members be able to provide further information ?

Date / month of birth 1921.

Place of birth.

Any other documentation with reference numbers to his service etc.

Struggled with our Archives to located him - 3 others but, not your relative.

Regards Keith.

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Nice info so far but its funny that I cannot find anything on his Records at the NA Kew??
Very odd this!
I will try another source later and see if anything comes up
Cheers

Ditto Doc.

K.




.

[Doc Vernon]

Just similar info as given but may assist??
Cheers

https://uboat.net/allies/merchants/c...son/50596.html

[alison macrae]

If this is his discharge number, he must have signed up again, to have been a 3rd Engineer on the SS Baron Erskine that was torpedoed in January 6th, 1942 by UBoat 701.

[alison macrae]

I cannot thank you all who have been so wonderful in providing all this information. My cousin I believed was born on the Isle Of Lewis, and then his parents moved to Glasgow when he was a youngster. His family used to live at 1a Lochganvich. All the MacIvers lived in Lochganvich.