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    I think I was in most youth organizations. Whilst in the ATC we used to train with the old Lee enfield infantry rifle circa 1914/1918 . It was commonly known as a P17. This was though calibre wise .300. So it could have been .300 injection ? JS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Bay View Post
    No I don't know it.
    And in my opinion, it is absolutely true.
    The marches support the annihilation of Jews and their State - it is as simple as that, and Hamas are at the heart of it all.
    All I do know is what I see on television - on ALL channels - and that is/was the Palestinian flag draped over the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier -
    a provocative event at the very least, so I do not need reminding that protests in favour of Gaza - for Gaza read HAMAS - are a protest for terrorism,
    no matter which way you cut the cloth.
    A descriptive post on here described the killing of two Palestinian youths by the IMD - yet when asked by another poster on here how many Israeli youths and babies were killed by Hamas - this was met with a profound silence from the original poster.... clearly indicating to me the selective choices some people make when determining protest marches and commenting in a biased manner.
    Very well said Sir .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Bay View Post
    No I don't know it.
    And in my opinion, it is absolutely true.
    The marches support the annihilation of Jews and their State - it is as simple as that, and Hamas are at the heart of it all.
    All I do know is what I see on television - on ALL channels - and that is/was the Palestinian flag draped over the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier -
    a provocative event at the very least, so I do not need reminding that protests in favour of Gaza - for Gaza read HAMAS - are a protest for terrorism,
    no matter which way you cut the cloth.
    A descriptive post on here described the killing of two Palestinian youths by the IMD - yet when asked by another poster on here how many Israeli youths and babies were killed by Hamas - this was met with a profound silence from the original poster.... clearly indicating to me the selective choices some people make when determining protest marches and commenting in a biased manner.
    I assume this is the post you are referring to.

    #25 Palestinian protests marches in nearly every major city around the globe. The IDF shot two young boys dead today an 8 year old and 14 year in the West Bank. That is 52 children killed by the IDF in the West bank since 7th October.

    Perhaps if you care to go back through the previous posts , you will find my reply #30 here I will refresh your memory

    #30 #28, At least 29 children have been identified by international authorities as having died in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas. But a video, citing a post deleted by the World Jewish Congress, has been circulating online falsely suggesting that children didn’t die in the attack in Israel.

    Ivan it is not a numbers game. You have two groups who are being used by their so called politcal leaders . One guy is fighting for his politcal survival and the other lot are just a bunch of terrorists, well so the BBC keep saying.

    Me I just want to see an end to all wars , why should children be suffering just because some asshole wants to show the world his plonker is bigger than the other guys plonker

    Old saying when men refuse to fight there will be no more wars.

    How many here have been involved in or witnessed violent deaths? I am not talking about industrial accidents or corporate manslaughter.
    Last edited by James Curry; 1st March 2024 at 11:39 PM.

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    I am sure there are many in Gaza who just want to live their lives in a normal way.
    Sadly HAMAS have other ideas as does Notayahoo.

    Until there is a registered state of Palestine there will never be any peace to speak of.

    But in a democracy, as which we all live in, you do have the rights to express your opinion be it right or wrong
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    Just a little comment on those marches going on in London weekly. Last Saturday one man stood up with his poster saying : hamas are terrorists ", he was immediately jumped upon by a bunch of police and arrested, supposedly for causing a public disorder, later unarrested. This whilst police stood by doing nothing to arrest people wearing masks or chanting anti semetic word. The cost of policing these marches is running into tens of millions and making parts of London a nogo area for shoppers and tourists. I would hazard a guess that the majority of the marchers have no idea where Palestine is or how it is governed.
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    I saw on the news, the hospital that was raided by the IDF. During any warfare, people are stripped and told to put their hands on their heads. There was no beating, or shooting, they were just ascertaining if the staff were armed or not, a sensible move in such a terrorist ridden place. I guarantee that if it had been Hamas fighters doing the checking, they would have shot the lot of whoever they had kneeling.
    Another thing. About the starving people, I didn't see any skinny, starved people, they mostly consisted of young men that looked very fit. Even the kids in other newscasts looked well enough fed. All running, grabbing, and carrying heavy bags of whatever was going.
    I don't want them fighting, but all Hamas had to do was release the hostages, then Israel would be hard pressed to convince the world they were in the right. But, of course, Hamas has probably killed many of the hostages, and have very few to release. If there were no terrorists around these hospitals, why would the IDF need to be shooting at anyone?
    One other thing. I have no recollection of any Jewish terror attacks in the UK, but plenty of such from the many Islamic terror groups in the UK. I just know which side I'm on, simply by knowing who is most likely to try to kill or injure me, or my family, in our own country.
    What Hamas and there worldwide supporters really want, is for Israel to stop fighting, not for Hamas to stop fighting, it's that simple.

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    #108, Why the dubiosity what are you on about, my post is as was posted by an article from World Jewish Congress.
    Your mention of the troubles in Ireland. Why did the UK government not respond the same way as the IDF.
    The IRA ran rampant in London in the 1970's, do a bit of reading up about what when and were the IRA ran rampant in London. Sorry but you mention I am selective in my posts. I post what I have read online , I do not just pluck something out of thin air.
    Do you think that the governments Legacy bill should be allowed into law?
    A major mistake in the Good friday agreement was to give Republicans & Loyalist a get out of jail free card. How would you feel if you had lost a loved one in that conflict, be you a civilian or RUC, or UK armed forces. Any who committed a crime should face the courts and dealt with accordingly. Those involved in Bloody Sunday !!!! why should they not be charged for the murder of innocent civil rights marchers? One by one those involved are meeting the grime reaper. The commanding officer at that time. Colonel Derek Wilford!!! he disobeyed a direct order from Brigadier Pat MacLellan and the result was 26 innocent civil rights protesters shot leaving 13 dead.
    Learn your subject before using accusing me of dubliosty.

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    Johnny.
    If you are talking about terrorists you must include the Israelis, I well remember when the British Govt was given the task by the UN to stop Israelis from taking over Palestinian lands in 1947 they were equally as bad as Hamas is today, I remember when they hung British troops from lamppost's, blew up the Kin David Hotel, one was called the Stern Gang and I forget the other big groups, they killed many Palestinians at that time. Hatred is usually created for some sort of profit; in this case Israelis wanted land; and have been taking it off the Palistinians ever since, and one wonders where the hatred comes from, read HistoryDes
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    Jew and Arab have been at war with each other over many generations in various places in many lands.

    Religious differences often a problem but now for Israel more to do with taking land and using other events to cover that fact.

    Nota yahoo will never concede to any suggestions from any other country, he will go his way or the highway.
    Ove the centuries there have been many such as he, often with ulterior motives.

    Until Palestine has a land of it's own there will never be peace in mid east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Taff Jenkins View Post
    Johnny.
    If you are talking about terrorists you must include the Israelis, I well remember when the British Govt was given the task by the UN to stop Israelis from taking over Palestinian lands in 1947 they were equally as bad as Hamas is today, I remember when they hung British troops from lamppost's, blew up the Kin David Hotel, one was called the Stern Gang and I forget the other big groups, they killed many Palestinians at that time. Hatred is usually created for some sort of profit; in this case Israelis wanted land; and have been taking it off the Palistinians ever since, and one wonders where the hatred comes from, read HistoryDes
    Of course there were Jewish terrorist, just as there have been Irish terrorists, English, terrorists, French and on and on. But that has changed with time. It's what's happening today that counts. We can't keep harping on about yesterday, because if we do, we will all be killing each other for some reason or other from way back when.
    The people responsible for the Palestine/Israeli setup are, no doubt, all dead and gone by now, and we should have learned by now, that the two don't mix.
    Killing innocent people, and themselves, is a great way to achieve a way of life you want, that's according to Hamas. But. I doubt they'll pick up any points on the way to achieving their goals.
    Our own gov.uk haven't come to the conclusion yet, that certain types of cultures just don't mix. I know it, as do most people in the UK, but, as usual, gov'uk don't.
    Time will tell, and I feel sorry for our youngsters, for the crap they'll have to put up with in the not too distant future.

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