Just stop Oil

[j.sabourn]

Obvious way John is for the dumb bats is to practice birth control. China tried it a few years ago and were mocked wth abuse by the same dumb bats probably because they hadn’t thought of it first. The United Nations makes me laugh , the only thing united about them is that they all agree to disagree. JS

[James Curry]

John the Ref: to Chelsea Tractor,
Chelsea tractor was coined by environmentalists to reflect the popularity of four-wheel drive vehicles with middle-class families living in wealthy areas. They are often used by a yummy mummy to take her little darling Porcha to school which is maybe a 500yards down the road. She may carry on after the school run to visit her Manicurist or even the gym to see her personal trainer.

Being unfair here the state of the UK roads with Pot Holes you could actually do with an all terrain vehicle.battle.jpg

[Ian Mutch]

I'm depressed by the comments on here about the Just Stop Oil group. I don't agree with everything they do but they are just people who want a future for themselves and their children. The essential recognition that we have to live sustainably at some point is the simplest form of logic imaginable. Living unsustainably is by definition hopeless. That was obvious to me when I was 8 years old and asked my mum where, if our population kept growing, would the gorillas live? I think the obsesson with battery electric vehicles is misguided and not as green as its advocates imagine. We are still dealing in finite resources like lithium; 80% of known reserves now controlled by the Chinese as if there aren't enough problems. The internal combustion engine is a flexible device that can run on all kinds of fuels and the government should let all technologies evolve to address environmental problems. I see 6 EU countries including Germany and Italy have refused to sign up to the 2035 end of ICE date. They want an opportunity to develop clean fuels and engines. Rubbishing eco protestors just makes us look like we don't care about the earth and risks inviting a charge of selfishness. The debate around the environment is a complex one and should embrace all of humanity. I suspect that ultimate answer is population control as the planet is only the same size as it ever was. Ian Mutch ex P&O general cargo division 3rd mate

[happy daze john in oz]

Similar here in Oz with the 'Tractors'.

We have some EV here but small numbers mainly used by town persons.

But here is something I never thought of.
For Oz to become a total carbon free state, not actually possible, then we would need to build ten times the amount of solar and wind we currently have.
It could be built in arears away from the suburban regions.

Currently we build about 400 to500 kilometers of high level power lines each year.
To suit the new amount of wind and solar will require some 10,000 kilometers of lines.
That though would only be enough for the current population, not that of ten years time.

The world is now like the dog chasing it's tail, going nowhere on this one.
One of our senior scientists has now said that the future of the EV is doubtful, too many other options coming on stream that will not require all the mining and other practices needed for the EV.

[James Curry]

Public transport is the answer Trams Trains and now hyrogen buses are appearing on UK roads. Another answer is to encourage car sharing for the run to work, Create more Park and Ride facilities. At least it will be reducing emissions and improve air quality. Not perfect but surely has to be better than what we have now. Is it really necessary to do the school run. Most kids say going to schoolA will live within a couple of miles of school A so get a school bus. Has to be better than say 250 cars turning up each school day to drop or collect Precious who I would imagine rather have a bit of fun walking home with their school chums. Just think they can text to each other rather than talk even though they are beside each other

[Ivan Cloherty]

[QUOTE=Ian Mutch;417931]I'm depressed by the comments on here about the Just Stop Oil group. I don't agree with everything they do but they are just people who want a future for themselves and their children. /QUOTE]

Why on earth are you depressed, WE ALL want a better life for our children, grand children, et al, ad infinitum, but I for one could not envisage myself being so blinkered as to stop ambulances reaching patients or hospitals, or stop cancer patients from reaching their appointments and then stopping normal people going about their jobs many who probably serve in the emergency and infrastructure services.

What you SHOULD be distressed about is the complete lack of our police forces duty of care and protection in protecting the law abiding public going about their lawful duties and offering these selfish law breakers tea and sympathy and soft headed judges letting them off with a reprimand in the unlikely event they are brought before the courts

[j.sabourn]

I’m depressed when I see the farce going on in a London court where a so called member of the Royal Family is suing the media for supposedly listening in to his privacy calls and at the same time wanting to claim money for something he wants to revel in to enlarge his personal wealth. Neither side has any morals as regards decency and there’s nothing to choose between them. If Americans had any morals at all they will cancel the ginger ones visa and send him packing he could always be deported from the UK with the next batch of illegal immigrants. JS

[Marian Gray]

I'm depressed by the comments on here about the Just Stop Oil group. I don't agree with everything they do but they are just people who want a future for themselves and their children. The essential recognition that we have to live sustainably at some point is the simplest form of logic imaginable. Living unsustainably is by definition hopeless. That was obvious to me when I was 8 years old and asked my mum where, if our population kept growing, would the gorillas live? I think the obsesson with battery electric vehicles is misguided and not as green as its advocates imagine. We are still dealing in finite resources like lithium; 80% of known reserves now controlled by the Chinese as if there aren't enough problems. The internal combustion engine is a flexible device that can run on all kinds of fuels and the government should let all technologies evolve to address environmental problems. I see 6 EU countries including Germany and Italy have refused to sign up to the 2035 end of ICE date. They want an opportunity to develop clean fuels and engines. Rubbishing eco protestors just makes us look like we don't care about the earth and risks inviting a charge of selfishness. The debate around the environment is a complex one and should embrace all of humanity. I suspect that ultimate answer is population control as the planet is only the same size as it ever was. Ian Mutch ex P&O general cargo division 3rd mate

Oh Dear! Whilst to be commended in 'the organising' of the planting of a number of Willow trees in your local vicinity as a Green Councillor I read with dismay the reviewers who replied to your 'opinion piece' dated April 2023 of a local Pro Brexit paper? A Periodical in Stroud and surrounding areas known as ''The White''

Like you, I too and I quote.... 'reserve my right to take the screaming piss out of something that is simultaneously, crazy and dangerously divisive in the post-Brexit world of lies, deceit and corrosive drivel'.

Your scathing remarks left me not only depressed I developed a sudden urge to leggit as far away as possible from those who spout IMHO such patronising and sanctimonious tosh. As I don't own a motorbike like yourself I will don my trainers instead.

Like all rampant Remainers who participated in the United Kingdom's Democratic vote including the previous and current spouter of SNP/Green dogmatic claptrap up here in Scotland, Breiteers won. Time for the losers to grow up, stop whinging and work to further enhance this wonderful country who by the way only have 1% emissions. If it were left to me I'd send'' The Stop Oil'' numpties [and I'm being kind here] to China and the rest - to pontificate and see how far they get! Good Day Mr Mutch.

https://normalforglastonbury.uk/23-u...e-light-paper/

Including the old chestnut sentiments from the https://hopenothate.org.uk/

[Johnny Kieran]

Public transport is OK, but when you go shopping to those out of town shopping areas on a bus, by the time you get home, all those ice creams have melted and dripping through the bottom of that non plastic bag. Plus all the other frozen stuff has melted.

[vic mcclymont]

Scientists have discovered that Antarctica was once a green and populated continent.
Obviously the continent suffered a change a mssive change in temperature, what caused it?
Vic