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21st April 2023, 10:30 PM
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NZ stop Livestock shipping
New Zealand ships its last livestock as ban takes effect.Looks like ships like these will soon be heading for the breakers yards,2020-09-03T045859Z_1157331725_RC2SQI9TQRDA_RTRMADP_3_JAPAN-NEWZEALAND-SHIP-scaled.jpg
There will be no more live animal transports by sea from New Zealand, the agriculture minister announced on Friday as the country fully implements the live animal export ban based on animal welfare concerns. 21/4/2023.
Good news for live stock bad news for Sharks.
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21st April 2023, 10:38 PM
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Well done New Zealand - Brilliant!!!
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22nd April 2023, 12:42 AM
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I worked on two freezing works in NZ, no shipping live sheep then, don't know why they changed as I think it was better money in frozen carcasses. I think that the Middle East insisted because of Halal and as NZ had lost its UK market to the EU they had no choice but to survive.
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22nd April 2023, 06:01 AM
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That bill was passed some two years ago but took time to implement.
Theer is talk Oz will follow suit, not before time.
A most disgusting trade and having seen the sheep being loaded makes you feel sick.
The number that died on the crossing was even worse.


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22nd April 2023, 11:45 AM
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I worked on a livestock carrier in the 70's. I agree it can be a cruel trade. The ship was plying between either N.Z. or Australia to Kuwait. This was during the Iran-Iraq war, there was a drought in South/West Australia so sheep or lambs were loaded at about $8 per live animal in Freemantle. Then unloaded at Kuwait where they were reloaded onto lorries for shipment across the desert to Iraq where they were sold wholesale for $112. The difference in cost between frozen and live carcases was astronomical. That was especially true at this time of the year during Ramadam and Eid Al Fitre when Islamic adherents replicate the story of Abraham and his son Issac with the slaughter of a sheep. The difference in the laws for transporting livestock between Aussie and Kiwi were that from N.Z. we had to carry vets and Oz we did not. The ship used to carry about 29,000 sheep at a time with a very low death rate on passage, the ship used to take about 11 days at 22knots to reach kuwait, that speed was the main air conditioning for the comfort of the animals. One time in the Persian Gulf we were stopped by an Iranian frigate and boarded by an armed platoon of seamen, supposedly to check our final discharge port. Everything said Kuwait but the Iranians new the sheep were destined for Iraq. Subsequently over the 2/ 3 hours that the Iranians were onboard with no forced air in the holds from the ships forward movement there was a mortality rate of well over 1,000 dead sheep. That as mentioned was good news for the sharks. I have no idea now about the laws of transporting livestock around the world but remember that both Oz and N.Z. were a large part of the trade to the the Arab states, also there was at that time other countries like China, India, etc. If the trade in livestock were to stop
from Oz-NZ. I am sure that it will increase in countries that do not have the same scruples as Oz-N.Z do.
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22nd April 2023, 11:58 AM
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#5 Think a lot is dependent on Religion . Sailing wth mixed religions on Indian ships most still insisted on the likes of live chickens to be slaughtered on board by their Holy man.Even if you supplied dead carcasses with the approp. Certs. Saying they had been slain in the correct manner was rarely accepted . One had to usually put up with lots of chucks running around the bathrooms bleeding to death after having their throats slit. JS
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22nd April 2023, 01:31 PM
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Send them to the UK we can use them for accommodation purposes, alternatively send them to France first it will save people making dangerous crossings in dingies, they could bring their own sheep with them
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24th April 2023, 06:22 AM
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Ivan, at last a sensible solution to a tough problem.
See there is now some 'legal' person in UK, got an overseas name it sounds, saying the UK must not copy our system of saying who come, when and by what means, must be from the WOKE lot.


Happy daze John in Oz.
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