Rogue waves

[cappy]

on the cragmoor the old chippy was washed along and given a hard bruising and grazing as she pooped a big one near pitcairn ...i think you knew axel john a fine old scandi out of shields ...we have discussed him before ......an ex sailing ship man .....that breed long gone now ....mores the pity regards cappy

[j.sabourn]

Yes Cappy old Axel Lindberg him and Septimus Kincaid the bosun made a formidable pair. Names that if you sailed with you would always remember. Axel I think , our lady friend on site did a reading on for me , as I always wondered if he was ever recognised for his scarred upper arm tendons caused by holding on to a survivor over the side of a lifeboat for rather a long time , I think he was dead when finally he let go of same to their rescuers , think he received the BEM , never knew until someone else on this site told me all those years later. He must have been over 70 in 1954 when I sailed with the pair. Septimus Kincaid was like having your own private tutor as was keen to impart all his seamanship knowledge to you ,hoping to impart some of it to a dumb cluck . The senior apprentice was called Jimmy and can always remember Axels famous words to him Yust the yob yimmy like most Scandinavian’s could not pronounce his Js Cheers JS

[Graham Shaw]

Rogue Waves-an early notable example? the steam tanker World Concord.

1954 A year after the storm in the Irish Sea when 134 souls perished in the ferry Princess Victoria ,another vessel was in difficulties in the same sea due to heavy weather. She was the recently built World Concord,which at the time of her building in 1952 was the largest tanker in the world. This time,despite her breaking into two halves and drifting quite a distance apart there were no casualties. She was repaired and went on to serve another 20 years.
[This failure, and others, led to the changes in classification society rules regarding notch toughness of steels used in welded ships, the design of structural details and control of welding quality.]


Do any of you remember her story or were involved in it?



WORLD CONCORD-The Story



History;Launched 29/1/1952-Compl.6/52 as Yard No.1000 by Vickers-Armstrongs,Barrow in Furness.Steam tanker,15.5kts, 199m x 26.3m;20,125 grt,32,955 dwt. Owners-World Tanker Corp,Monrovia,Liberia.

1961-64.Same owners,but Greek flag.
1965 Renamed DESERT CHIEF by new owners Arctic Shipping,Monrovia.Gross tonnage noted as increased to 20,667 grt.
1969 Renamed NAFTAMONDIAL 1 by new owners Culnaft,Monrovia.
6/6/74 Broken up by Keun Wah Iron Steelworks,Kaohsiung,Taiwan.

[cappy]

well john i rang seppys home a few years later while home in shields i was going to just see how he was ......and his missus said very sadly ....oh my seppy has gone .....i thought they were invincible ...old axel was what i called a proper seaman like seppy .....and that was a time when there was a lot of proper sailor men about.....and old bangers like the avonmoor lol .....dont know about that story of the toughest bar in tnhe world written recently ....but the jungle would have been well up there.....oh happy days looking back.....regards cappy

[cappy]

wonder how KT is this morn ....it was blowing a buster on the isle of wight yesterday ....122 mph recorded ....he was in the 61 typhoon off osaka in ....61.....winds over 200 miles per hour ....now that was a buster ......i was in the riseley one of stephen suttons ....brown trouser time ....loved to tell the grandkids .....and then when they said oh gramps you tell them ....got them to google it....and watched there faces then...she had cracks afterwards along the front of tha accom you could put your finger down...but then into osaka and whoopee time....happy days....R683532

[j.sabourn]

Re the Jungle ..there was a mate in Dalglieshs who was told he would never get promotion with them as long as his wife was a barmaid in the Jungle. The shipowner could be very moralistic when they wanted. JS

[j.sabourn]

Were you at a buoy Cappy ? Those that stayed at the buoys and steamed full ahead into it fared better in most cases better than those who slipped and sped for searoom . Out here Within the first 3 months I was caught with my pants down with an imminent cyclone warning in Dampier , was the last ship out as was coming off charter and undergoing off charter survey. Not time to clear the port totally and all the cyclone buoys taken.found a quite spot behind an island still in the port and laid both anchors out starting off with about 12 shackles on each. Supply vessels carried nearly 4 times the chain of ordinary vessels. Remembering your Japanese Typhoon just steamed on the anchors , mind did have to pay out more cable as started to drag a few times and finished up with about 22 shackles on each. 0nly damage was the loss of all the canvas awnings which didn’t have time to take down. JS

[cappy]

no john we just put our head into it and buckled down ....the noise was as frightening as the weather i have never heard such a fearsome noise ever ....as we were all accom aft .....i believe one of the ist ....but stand to be corrected ....the leading edges were almost paint free after the typhoon....the sea runing over the deck and well up the accom.....some grim faces to say the least of it.....cappy didnt like it....GRT 6000 ton sank of ushant after collision 1974....oh happy days but consoled with the lovely michico ....i think you new her brother lol a nipponese tranny ....got yer ist this time lol .....regards cappy

[Keith Tindell]

Hi Cappy , yep remember that one in 61, we had painted the bridge about a week before, need not have bothered , it blew the bloody lot off. trouser browner no doubt. Yesterday was pretty tasty, i have an open fire place in my little sitting room, it has a tall stack outside, so did not use that room all day, just in case it dropped, but all still good. Still gales here today forecast , but not like yesterday. It did clear all the leaves out of my garden !!. kt

[cappy]

doubt if there was any shipping about yesterday round the isle keith...cappy