Artic ice

[j.sabourn]

#30 . Ta La, apart from other and more blatant explanations apart from a Troll a creature looking like a small ugly person, a Troll among many descriptions given
Is the act of leaving an insulting message on the internet to annoy someone.
Trolling …. When someone passes msgs to bait people deliberately provoking argument or emotional reaction.
All taken from Collin’s dictionary. Can’t see the original definition , a bit like what is a ship? Today is a vessel that sails on water ? So much for progress.
Hence my distaste at calling a ship a troll. Cheers JS…
Further to Rule of The Road and fishing , think it was Rule 9 or 15 on fishing vessels where Korean Fishing vessels had a different set of lights and shapes to the world
These were replaced bringing fishing vessels as a whole under the umbrella.. Anyone who can remember better would be maybe beneficial to all, to know our own past history.
Cheers JS…..

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi John.
On my first trip down past Spain and Portugal, I was on lookout and there where lights from the shore to as far as the eye could see out into the Atlantic, we went through the middle of them, but I have always wondered if they where long liners rather than netting, if they where netting they would have lost a lot.
Des

[j.sabourn]

Des one of my dilemas to this day , is why did Anchor line display 2 anchor balls at anchor .
One in the fore part of vessel and one aft. Was it a mistake or a company law ? Or were they just getting mixed up between lights and shapes. JS.
PS could say someone didn’t know their Lights from their Balls. JS

[Ralph Knowles]

Further to the links about 'Trolls', #31, there were four of them in the class all built in 3Maj yard in Rijeka. these were the Troll Park/River/Lake and the Arctic Troll. They went under the unfortunate nicknames of Goblin Glen, Goblin Burn, Goblin Pond and last, but not least, 'The Frigid Midget'. The 'Park and the 'Arctic' were on the N/Atlantic run with cars from Emden to E/Coast of the States and then the car deck pontoons were all stowed back to convert to a 'bulker'. Return crossing carried pulp products, liner board rolls for corrugated cardboard production and celulose pulp for quality paper manufacture. Return trip was seven weeks. Quite hard working. I was on the 'Park' as j/e, 3/e and 2/e and on the 'Lake' as 4/e and crane eng. That was on the Japan, Aus and Persian Gulf runs.
Ref #30, I think the 'Treasure Seeker' was renamed 'Transocean Discoverer' which I worked on as Ballast Control Op. for a few tours. She was a filthy, rusting, leaking wreck by that time. I understand that after a spell in Belfast, she emigrated to Trinidad and eventually sank.

[j.sabourn]

On the vessel which had two holds converted into car decks in a previous post , we had the decks fitted in Emden and loaded 600 Volkswagens for Honolulu . Always remember that trip as was sitting in a bar and watched the first moon landing on tv so must have been 1968 or thereabouts. Thought I was watching a movie at first. Cheers JS

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi John.
Believe it, you believe it, they haven't been back since, and the Yanks don't let the grass grow undr their feet.
Des

[J Gowers]

#34 The Transocean Discoverer was sold to Aban and converted to some kind of floating production type of rig and went to Venezuala where as you say on her first location they had ballasting problems and the rig sank with no loss of life. I was C/E on her for almost 12 years and she was getting bit worse for wear when I left it in 2000 before it was sold, although the engine room was good as we fitted four Wartsila 200s to replace the crap Hedemora generators. The best time on her was the two years we worked offshore Vung Tau in Vietnam,1993/4. I was 4/E on the Arctic Troll, 1977, here is a pic of the car decks and one in the engine room, Bob Landsman 3/E on the right and me on left both with the obligatory 1970s long hair.

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[Tony Taylor]

#34 The Transocean Discoverer was sold to Aban and converted to some kind of floating production type of rig and went to Venezuala where as you say on her first location they had ballasting problems and the rig sank with no loss of life. I was C/E on her for almost 12 years and she was getting bit worse for wear when I left it in 2000 before it was sold, although the engine room was good as we fitted four Wartsila 200s to replace the crap Hedemora generators. The best time on her was the two years we worked offshore Vung Tau in Vietnam,1993/4. I was 4/E on the Arctic Troll, 1977, here is a pic of the car decks and one in the engine room, Bob Landsman 3/E on the right and me on left both with the obligatory 1970s long hair.

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Agree with your description of Hedemora, P I T A!

[J Gowers]

Hi Tony, Here is a photo to give you nightmares a Hedemora one of the ones we scrapped, the second photo is bits of an engine after it chucked a con rod through the side and the third is the ER after fitting Wartsilas.


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[Tony Taylor]

Hi Tony, Here is a photo to give you nightmares a Hedemora one of the ones we scrapped, the second photo is bits of an engine after it chucked a con rod through the side and the third is the ER after fitting Wartsilas.


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Fortunately only sailed with them twice, full load alternator and half load emergency alteranator on 315,000ton job.
Failed (fairly new and not worked hard) when we needed it most.
Cracked a liner after 5 mins of going on load.
42 hours adrift until we got the job away.
Having said that, a lot of the kit on that job was poor, mind you we had nice Danish furniture in the accommodation.