If you thought E.V's were dangerous, think again

[James Curry]

Bi-Fuel cars usually run on LPG (Propane)and or Petrol /Diesel. Some manufacturers still make them. Again though the same problem applies finding a garage that has an LPG pump. They are there but finding one ?? I still think BIG oil is in no rush to reduce fossil fuels.

Running a V24 engine I would think would be very labour intensive. The usual setup would be 2 V12's running in parallel
Gas turbines are another method used as either the Prime mover or back up systems. I think a lot of cruise ships run gas turbines as in port Alternators.

[Tony Taylor]

Bi-Fuel cars usually run on LPG (Propane)and or Petrol /Diesel. Some manufacturers still make them. Again though the same problem applies finding a garage that has an LPG pump. They are there but finding one ?? I still think BIG oil is in no rush to reduce fossil fuels.

Running a V24 engine I would think would be very labour intensive. The usual setup would be 2 V12's running in parallel
Gas turbines are another method used as either the Prime mover or back up systems. I think a lot of cruise ships run gas turbines as in port Alternators.

you couldnt get two v12s and alternators in a twenty foot container

[James Curry]

Why not? two banks vee 12 configuration is 6 cylinders a side = 12cylinders piggy back that with another unit and there is your V24 configuration.
This configuration utilises a coupled shaft between the engines.
At least if one engine goes bang you are only replacing the one engine.
Have you ever witnessed a medium speed diesel critical failure? I have and anyone in that space at the time would not have survived. There was schrapnel all over the place. The engine exploded due to a bottom end failure and causing a crankcase explosion.
Macchi-Castoldi_M.C.72_engine_Fiat_AS.6_2009-06-06.jpg I reckon that will fit into a 20 foot container.

[Tony Taylor]

Why not? two banks vee 12 configuration is 6 cylinders a side = 12cylinders piggy back that with another unit and there is your V24 configuration.
This configuration utilises a coupled shaft between the engines.
At least if one engine goes bang you are only replacing the one engine.
Have you ever witnessed a medium speed diesel critical failure? I have and anyone in that space at the time would not have survived. There was schrapnel all over the place. The engine exploded due to a bottom end failure and causing a crankcase explosion.
Macchi-Castoldi_M.C.72_engine_Fiat_AS.6_2009-06-06.jpg I reckon that will fit into a 20 foot container.

am not discussing the relative potential scenarios, just stating what is common right now, V24 Jenbacher gas engine delivering up to 4mw or thereabouts
I believe a company in Knowsley is arguably one of biggest suppliers in uk for Jenbacher, Clarke Energy.
As for catastrophic failure, I will ask my son who worked for them for several years; never heard him mention any such failures but I know they did major strip downs on site. I only visited one waste tip installation and it was quite confined to get around.

[James Curry]

Interesting post, Tony. Just found the Jenbacher site, as you mentioned not a lot of room to work in. Be interested to hear his feedback.

https://youtu.be/A93IrFrzqsQ interesting video link about H2 fuelled gen sets.

[Bill Morrison]

Town Gas Operating Engine.
This one started life in 1904 in use until 1974. It was a back up to the electric motor.
Graces Guide give a write up. https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Victor...ridge_Aberdeen

Some pictures I have with the operator note ignition one match.

[happy daze john in oz]

LPG was very big here up to a couple of years ago, most servos had a bowser for it.
In one town the buses run on LPG and idle of diesel.
But in the last three years within a 30 kl m radius of were we live 6 new servos have opened, the last just a month a go.
So when is this supposed end to fossil fuel vehicle to end??

Of course all a gov men pipe dream as per usual.
But they are the gov and always know what is best for us, that is why we vote them out, or is it in.
Getting as confused as them.

EV may be going fine just now, though sales here in Oz are not great and I did hear that in UK up to 50% of those who bought an Ev went back to ICE within two years.

Toyota put out a statement showing just how un environmentally they really are,

[Johnny Kieran]

Some of those pictures are amazing, I just wonder how you fit them into a car?

[James Curry]

#16 Great photos Bill from a bygone era, I wonder what health and safety would make of that these days, especially the executive boiler suite.
I really enjoy walking around transport type museums or summer fairs especially when you see the likes of Traction engines, and some of the old industrial type power plants.
especially from companies the likes of this one Im0905-Mather1.jpg medium_cd0158_047_050908_CC3_1993_29_2_Mather___Platt_dynamo.jpg
Just look at the simple design in photo 2, a pump and a dynamo on the same bedplate.
PS: anyone know how it worked, not a quiz just wondering.

[happy daze john in oz]

OHS, and there you are in an EV and the battery dies but catches fire at the same time.
Once the battery is dead all doors lock!!!!
In India of course where cremations are common..................................