Help wanted in research of a WWII casualty

[j.sabourn]

For those looking for records of past family and what medals they are entitled to, for anyone not knowing that when OBEs and MBEs turn up , that apart from OBE standing for Over Bloody Eighty , also stands for those in the trade as Others Bloody Efforts, and MBE for My Bloody Efforts. These decorations were given to Merchant seamen and members of the fire Service also the Police.. In 1957 medals awarded for acts of gallantry , as opposed to meritorious Service , have been distinguished by the addition of an emblem composed of two silver oak leaves.
JS

[Doc Vernon]

Rodney His Medal listing shows that his Medals were already issues thus the X on them.
I dont know if one cam get Copies ? But may be worth asking at the Medai issue section.
Cheers

Read below first please!

Merchant Navy medals application form (MSF 4408) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)


RBL - Applying for medals (britishlegion.org.uk)

[Rodney Mills]

Doc, any idea what medals someone, probably his wife received?

Cheers Rodney

[Doc Vernon]

War Medal (1939-1945)

Atlantic Star (1939-1945)

WM (War Medal) Dont know who got them but more than likely his Wife Rodney
Cheers

You could Email and ask who received them?
Cheers

[DeepSea]

Cargo ship Bateau, 4.687grt, (US Maritime Commission) loaded with a general cargo including war material in America for Murmansk had sailed from Loch Ewe and joined up with the 21 ship Convoy PQ-13, which departed Reykjavik on the 20th March 1942. Hampered by severe Arctic gales the convoy was thrown in to disarray and many ships became stragglers. By the 27th March the weather had subsided enough for the Germans to attack the now vulnerable ships and on the 28th March the merchantmen came under attack by German U-boats and aircraft sinking two ships. The following day three German destroyers were also sent to look for the remnants of the convoy and the Destroyer Z-26 comes across the Bateau and was sunk in the Barents Sea in position 72’ 30N 27’ 00E, with the loss of thirty-nine crewmembers. The seven survivors had been trying to release an iced up lifeboat and were dragged down with the ship. Coming to the surface they managed to swim to the upturned lifeboat and righted it, only to be rammed by the destroyer and found themselves back in the icy water. Z-26 then proceeded to pick up six men, the other being drowned. Two days later the destroyer was damaged by HMS Edinburgh and the survivors were transferred to another German destroyer before being landed at Kirkenes, Norway where they were eventually transported to Milag Nord for the duration of the war.

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Medal Records. Shows he was issued the 1939-1945 Star as well

A cross (×) drawn through a symbol indicates the issue of that medal; a circle (O) drawn through a symbol indicates that only the ribbon for that medal has been issued. If a cross and a circle have been used then both a medal and a ribbon have been issued. An R sometimes appears and signifies that an application for that medal was reviewed and refused. For those trying to discover whether a medal was issued, or was an unclaimed entitlement, then the MCA should be contacted, before undertaking lengthy searches at TNA, as they have the most up-to-date records.

[Rodney Mills]

Thank you very much Deep Sea, between y'all I have a wealth of data to send to Sylvia, she will be thrilled.

Cheers, and a tip of my hat to you. Rodney

[Rodney Mills]

Doc, Sylvia's mother is dead. It looks like the medal question is caput too. Again I am so appreciated of the efforts you all have done and in such a short time.

Thank you all. Cheers, Rodney

[Keith at Tregenna]

Confirming the birth registration:

Frederick Henry Rowlands
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008

Name:
Frederick Henry Rowlands
Event Type:
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year:
1905
Registration District:
Monmouth
County:
Monmouthshire
Event Place:
Monmouth, Monmouthshire, England

The county of Monmouth, Monmouthshire, shows that it was then part of England.

Now known as Gwent, Wales.

K.

[Rodney Mills]

Well done Keith, I'm deeply indebted to all of you for your collective efforts and the information it has garnered for Sylvia and her sisters, and their children. I have copied all the information, including what was on the links you each added and I am sending it over to her.

Cheers Rodney

[Doc Vernon]

Cargo ship Bateau, 4.687grt, (US Maritime Commission) loaded with a general cargo including war material in America for Murmansk had sailed from Loch Ewe and joined up with the 21 ship Convoy PQ-13. For those trying to discover whether a medal was issued, or was an unclaimed entitlement, then the MCA should be contacted, before undertaking lengthy searches at TNA, as they have the most up-to-date records.

My post #7 shows the Medal Card but wonder then why the 39/45 Star is not showing ??
I had also told Rodney about the X on the Medal Card
Thanks for extra info.
Cheers