Ivory and Hippo Hides

[John Pruden]

Yes John, that is your problem now most likely shrunk after all your hospital visits.

As to lines, well as when we were at school you will most likely have to do at least 100 before you will be allowed to reply again.

yes john back in dock again today barb says when I snuff it its right to the scrap yard with me?jp{lets see if this posts?}

[John Arton]

Going back to hides, we used to bring container loaded with wet animal hides back from Canada on the c.p. container ships. Stowed on deck as the stench from them was overpowering. Any liquid that escaped from the container would dry to a horrible sticky, smelly mess on deck that could only be removed using hand scrapers.
Thinking back to the cargo we carried on the White beaver's from London over to Canada, it was remarkable what we carried. In the freezers we would have cheese, strawberries, butter and strangely, bank notes. Tween decks always seemed to be fully of cases of Plymouth gin, whiskey and beer with casks of wine, cars and tractors. Lower hold would have steel bars and other heavy stuff. We also had loads of cloths made in Poland, shoes, triang toys, a real plethora of goods. On deck would be barrels of pickled herring. Homeward we always had Canadian whiskey, copper ingots and sheets, aluminium ingots, sacks of Michigan bay beans for Heinz,
Great times in the late sixties spending 2/3 weeks in Victoria docks (still full of ships from blue star, Ben and glen line, NZS, A boats, etc. Then off to Montreal, Toronto, Hamilton and St. John in the winter. Tallying cargo and helping drawing up the cargo plan. Is it any wonder I spent nine months on board as a 18 year old cadet and only went home once, spending two days at home over Christmas 68.
Rgds
J.A.

[Chris Allman]

You were lucky John carrying them in containers, we twice had a shipment of wet hides in open stow in the focsle deck. The smell was horrendous along with the flies. They were supposed to be pickled in salt but that never stopped the smell or the flies which seemed to thrive on them. The shore gang had to clean the area they were stowed in with caustic soda.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi John.
Wish we had containers when we called into the Sudan for hides in 51, even while we were circling waiting for a pilot we could smell the stench off the wharf, all these tribesmen dancing around with spears and shields. When alongside they put them down and started loading the hides into the tween decks, If I remember correctly we took them to India, the smell was unbelievable I think they had been hosed of before loading but were so tightly packed it made no difference,I think the summer heat made it worse if that was possible.
Cheers Des

[happy daze john in oz]

I read somewhere the other day where the good guys in African game parks are spraying Elephants tusks with a pink paint of sorts which is putting the poachers off as they are no good like that.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Every now and then, an idea surfaces about how to save elephants etc from this rampant poaching.

One idea that resurfaced recently is the mysterious pink-tusked elephant. The people who suggest staining an elephant's tusks pink are trying to figure out a way to make ivory less valuable to poachers.

K.

"Rather than clever quick fixes, wiping out demand for elephant tusk may be the only way to truly help elephants. But people have to learn quickly about the victims of ivory products, since saving elephants is a race against time."

https://www.thedodo.com/pink-tusked-...699897629.html


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[Roy Gibson]

Did you ever ship out on the Beaver Fir? Did the trip to Canada on her in the early 60s

[Brian Seward]

-In 1947 aboard the "FortAsh" we took a whole # 5 Hatch full of hides from Buenos Aires to Liverpool It was so bad the dockers would not unload till they got more pay, which they did!.
Brian Seward R 330936

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Brian.
A sort of up the nose payment.
Cheers Des

[happy daze john in oz]

Hi Brian.
A sort of up the nose payment.
Cheers Des

Are you sure this was not here in Oz in the 60's?
Sort of thing they would go on strike for.