Question

[vic mcclymont]

Does an engineer on coastal service have to have the same qualifications as deep sea engineer to become a C.E.
Cheers
Vic

[j.sabourn]

Best an engineer answers that question Vic. As certification structure has changed over the years. Usd to be there was a class 1 and class 2 steam or motor , or one or the other with steam or motor endorsement. There were also as you know dispensations or on examination a temporary licence for a particular ship. Today horse power or kilowatts is brought in to licensing , a chief I had in the North Sea was an ex ships electrician like yourself but had a dispensation to sail as chief on an electric turbine. I don’t think but could be wrong that the emphasis is more on the kilowatt of the ship rather than HT or FG. Let a modern engineer answer he will know better. JS

[vic mcclymont]

Thanks John, Should have said question related to 1930's
Vic

[j.sabourn]

The dispensation seconds I sailed with deep sea in the earlier years were often referred to as permit seconds. The permit ones as far as I know were a wartime rank to fill up the many holes of lack of certificates. In the engine room. JS

[Captain Kong]

Some had a CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE, if they had worked for one company for years in the same job

[j.sabourn]

I think Brian they came about in the 80s when the whole cert. structure was in the process of changing. Those sailing as second engineers for a long time were issued with a certicate of service with no examinations necessary.I think today they do have to sit an exam. The same as the deck certificates master 1 2 3 4 And 5.with limitations on the cardboard cert, printed out in a little map of the world in case one gets lost. It put me off cornflakes for life. Maybe the engineers also have instructions on theirs on how to use. Think probably if the truth was known the EU had their fingers in the pie. Today a British cert, has lost a lot of what it once stood for. My opinion only. JS

[Ron B Manderson]

We had one of the 2nd eng on the S S Mahseer. of that ilk.
Boy! what Fred ( from Bolton)didn't know was not worth knowing .
Gentleman he was as well.
Ron The batcave

[Trader]

We had one of the 2nd eng on the S S Mahseer. of that ilk.
Boy! what Fred ( from Bolton)didn't know was not worth knowing .
Gentleman he was as well.
Ron The batcave

Wasn't Fred Dibnah was it Ron. LOL.

[Captain Kong]

No it wasnt Fred Dibnah,
I knew Fred for many years, he didnt go to sea. he set fire to my bathroom when I had a party once with his ciggy,
Nice cheerful fella, unfortunately got the big C, and prematurely passed on.
They have a statue in Town but looks nothing like him
It gets vandalized occasionally.
A lot of Engineers from Bolton went to sea, a big Engineering town.
Brian

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