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31st March 2018, 03:12 AM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
In the winter they would lay ships up alongside in Weymouth and everybody would go home for the night there would be one security man looking after two or three ships I would catch the train down in the morning meet the motaman start the generators run up a few pumps check everything was alright and catch the train home about 14.00 . It was a very relaxed way of life and I don't think anybody is actually thought about the security we are talking about the mid 1970s maybe it was a different world then or maybe there was a relaxed attitude in Dorset . There would be a berthing master who would go home after last ferry came in , the solitary ab who would active security could be anywhere between the two ships there was no such thing then as all the risks involved in lone working this is one of the reasons I'm a great advocate of applying the proper health and safety systems less people suffer at the end of the day
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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31st March 2018, 03:48 AM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
Take the average 10,000 ton tramp of years ago. Nights on board they called them and were worth 1 pound a night. There was a night watchman a duty engineer and a duty mate. Plus an apprentice if you carried them. 4 men to look after a ships welfare. Today if you have none, why did we waste our time all those years ago. The manning of a ship has been pared down out of all proportion to its needs safety wise. Even in drydock with a dead ship there was always someone on board. The isolation of a fire temporary may only need the closing of a fire door or watertight door to stop it spreading too quickly and give time for the fire service to arrive. No one there and you are asking for grief. Safety is only giving lip service today and is no better than what it was 50 years ago. JWS.
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31st March 2018, 04:43 AM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
There has been much talk here in Oz of a similar system as the 'Greens' complain that ships in port emit Co2.
There is also a push by them to have all ships pure electric power???????????????????????????
But most ships that arrive here are in for less than one day, by the time they shut down, hook up and restart!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But one was heard to comment on how the Co2 emissions are so bad that it is a wonder we can breathe.
When it was pointed out that Co2 is heavier than air and that plants require it to exist he changed the subject.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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31st March 2018, 05:06 AM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
Weymouth was so laid back it was horizontal , when railway men run ships it is just like putting a train in the siding , doesn't make it right ,
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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31st March 2018, 07:45 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics

Originally Posted by
robpage
In the winter they would lay ships up alongside in Weymouth and everybody would go home for the night there would be one security man looking after two or three ships I would catch the train down in the morning meet the motaman start the generators run up a few pumps check everything was alright and catch the train home about 14.00 . It was a very relaxed way of life and I don't think anybody is actually thought about the security we are talking about the mid 1970s maybe it was a different world then or maybe there was a relaxed attitude in Dorset . There would be a berthing master who would go home after last ferry came in , the solitary ab who would active security could be anywhere between the two ships there was no such thing then as all the risks involved in lone working this is one of the reasons I'm a great advocate of applying the proper health and safety systems less people suffer at the end of the day
There you are Rob, UCL was ahead of the game, when the Mailships went onto shore power during the ten day layup in Soton (Lol).
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31st March 2018, 08:34 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
We still had a night shift working by engineer onboard though and more than once on that night shift we have had Harland and Wolff Southampton working away on something through the night I've got it into my head and I may be wrong but it was cheaper for Union Castle to put the ships on Shore power that it was to burn the diesel in the generator considering the size of those diesel generators and how much was used on the show power I would have been surprised
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31st March 2018, 08:51 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
Rob, if I remember correctly shore supply was 3 phase 100 amps max.
Vaal was all steamturbo alternators, with three Rolls Royce emergency alternators.
Vic
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1st April 2018, 10:22 AM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
Pendennis Castle was 220 volt DC , 2 Allen turbo generators , 7,500 A ,/ 1.6 MW . 3 x 4 stroke 8 cylinder H & W Diesels 2000 A / 0.45 MW , Total power available almost 5MW , I cannot remember if shore power was DC or transformed AC on board , think was about 300 A max
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Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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1st April 2018, 08:54 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
The Pendennis was DC the Vaal AC, what was the Windsor, any ideas Rob?
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1st April 2018, 09:18 PM
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When I worked for Seacat a company guy came over from Scandinavia said that this was normal practice back in early 2000.
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