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5th January 2015, 01:42 PM
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Many thanks Gentlemen for that.
No John
not doing Australia this trip. just the Islands from San Diego,.
Three Hawaiian Islands , Fanning Island, Kiribati. Bora Bora , Raiatea, Tahiti, Moorea, Rangiroa, Marquesses, Nuka Hiva and then back to San Diego for a few days. we have done that trip twice before. around six weeks. short trip this time.
I asked Cappy to come but he badly stained and tore his dinner suit at John Arton`s Christmas bash chasing the Nuns around the garden, so may be next time.
Cheers
Brian
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5th January 2015, 07:48 PM
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5th January 2015, 10:26 PM
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Certainly did well Terry. His local knowledge certainly paid off if that was the case. In 1962 I think it was, I was involved in a collision on the River Plate. The pilot walked away from it, and yet he had the helm up until the final seconds where belatedly, I am led to believe the master retook over the helm and put us ashore on a sand bank. Unfortuanetly this was too late however. As I was on the focsle head seconds prior to contact with the other vessel had to assume a lot of what went on in the final seconds. Both vessels were at fault and was a 2 to 3 claim paid out by the NE coast insurers, which a lot of NE shipowners paid into, believe this also kept them away from claiming from Lloyds, and so was a cheaper alternative to the rise in Insurance which would have followed. Pilots are employed mainly for their local knowledge and in the case just mentioned should have known the depth of the channel and the amount of silting that had occurred, which was put down as the cause of the collision. No one would say anything at the local enquiry and it was only on return to UK that the companies lawyers questioned me as to the probable cause and I mentioned my theory about sliding in the mud that this was accepted. There always has been accidents at sea some avoidable, however as we all know shipping is not yet and doubt it ever will be rocket science and always liable for human error. Cheers JS
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5th January 2015, 11:38 PM
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#18, Ahh Captain you are indestructible in my eyes and as you and hubby are travelling on the 13th I am routing for you both
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6th January 2015, 09:31 AM
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And its a Friday , Marian. Friday 13, on the same ship, STATENDAM, that I sailed on that sailed on a Friday, two years ago on the same itinery, and was taken off with four days to live without two operations.
SO ................?????? lets hope...
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6th January 2015, 11:56 AM
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Latest reports from the salvage master, who is the same guy who helped raise the Costa Concordia apparently, this was not caused by human error, but probably a sensor which caused the pumps to kick in and transfer ballast. Amazing to me that in bad weather a sensor could cause the ship to be lost with all hands. About the only benefit of the smaller crews carried these days is that in an emergency there are a smaller number to be rescued. It seems that in the salvage they are going to try and bring her upright soon, and hope the sand has not shifted too badly to bring her off, KT
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Further to my last , there are Gale warnings in the area by the end of the week, KT
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7th January 2015, 12:16 AM
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By all accounts she was grounded intentionally as she had developed a list after leaving the Dock. The general scuttlebutt suggests that one or more of the ballast pumps had failed and as she turned to stbd to go around the bramble she had refused to come back up. It was very quick thinking to get her aground and not only save the ship and crew but also to keep the main road into Southampton open!
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This from Marine traffic yesterday
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7th January 2015, 02:46 PM
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7th January 2015, 04:43 PM
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Latest reports are, shes come off on her own, now being in tow KT
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7th January 2015, 05:11 PM
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