Scotland's Navy

[j.sabourn]

No 40 virgins for you then Roger. JS

[j.sabourn]

I would like to think like Buddah and that we are all reincarnated in some life form. but underneath think is probably not likely. By the same token I suppose some of us at some time in life have had the feeling when in a strange place of having been there before. For the life of me I cannot understand how those who are indoctrinated into blowing themselves and others up could possibly reach or come to the conclusion that they were doing it for the betterment of mankind. What kind of moron would listen to another moron to do such. They are going to be extremely disappointed when they find nothing but eternal darkness if they have any feeling at all which is doubtful. For Atheists who are supposed to believe in nothing I can quite see why, most religions are a comfort to most as want to believe in an afterlife. We are all afraid of dying if the truth were told, the ones who are Atheist at the end they will be calling on a higher being to assist them you can bet your bottom dollar. There are no such things as brave people when dying, the way you die if not violently is up to the individual. I have sympathy with those who would rather take their own life rather than suffer, but are prevented once again by some man made laws, your own life belongs to yourself and no one else. Death as well as life has its complications. The best thing to do especially at some of our ages is to whoop it up and die happy with alcohol poisoning, or try to to find any of these 40 virgins if any now remaining. Go out on a high not knowing anything about it. Wheeeeeeeeeegh JS

[Captain Kong]

I have never watched a man die yet who hasn't called out to God to save him,
I have even done it myself when I have been close to death. fortunately it has worked.
Brian

[Ivan Cloherty]

Been shot at a couple of times, didn't exactly call out to god, but do remember saying 'Jesus Christ' like you Brian, he must have been listening, as I'm still here!

[Red Lead Ted]

My point is regardless of your religious beliefs or stance on the church roman catholic or otherwise, Surely. The End Justifies The Means. The fact that such a prominent figure of the church has brought this much needed problem sorting out makes no difference at all, If this had been Bob Geldof instead of an Arch bishop, Most of the church bashers wouldn't have even replied. This is suppose to be the time of peace and goodwill to all of mankind. I wish someone from Westminster had done what the Bishop done. But its not a time for any politician to speak out against anything because as has been said they all want there own noses in the trough come next May. And they are not prepared to put there name or hand to anything. Except maybe a game of Candy Crush. Terry.

[Roger Dyer]

...... I have sympathy with those who would rather take their own life rather than suffer, but are prevented once again by some man made laws, your own life belongs to yourself and no one else....

John, whilst I have some sympathy for your view, I would remind you that, in Australia, it is not an offence to attempt to take one's own life, however, it is an offence to assist another person to do so. I imagine this would
apply in most countries whose criminal code is based on 'English' Law. That said, I too believe that in certain circumstances (think patients with incurable cancer who rely on medication to alleviate intense pain) euthanasia should be deemed legal. If such procedure is subject to the signed request of the person in question, with the approval of a medical practitioner, an officer of the Court and the next of kin, then I see no point in prolonging the suffering.

.....Roger

[cappy]

My point is regardless of your religious beliefs or stance on the church roman catholic or otherwise, Surely. The End Justifies The Means. The fact that such a prominent figure of the church has brought this much needed problem sorting out makes no difference at all, If this had been Bob Geldof instead of an Arch bishop, Most of the church bashers wouldn't have even replied. This is suppose to be the time of peace and goodwill to all of mankind. I wish someone from Westminster had done what the Bishop done. But its not a time for any politician to speak out against anything because as has been said they all want there own noses in the trough come next May. And they are not prepared to put there name or hand to anything. Except maybe a game of Candy Crush. Terry.

######or to take a candidate to a dinner in ukip for a job andthen proposition her ....and thats before the twat has any power .....so god help all concerned if he got some power regards cappy

[Ivan Cloherty]

Read an article in the paper and also saw an interview on TV, where-in the good ordinary citizens in various towns who started these food banks to help people 'really in need' rather than those who want to collect a few 'free goodies' stated that the last thing they want is any interference from the State, or the Churches. They are doing very well thankyou without the spectre of officialdom looming over them with the prospects of mountains of paper work and the inevitable health and safety luminous vested know alls interfering. They stated in no uncertain terms that they do not want any interference from Govt or Churches, what they DO NEED, is somewhere secure to store all the generous donations from the public, shops and superstores that are coming in. They have enough volunteers with a variety of skills already on their books, but are looking for local business to store some goods as their community halls do not have sufficient space. They made their message loud and clear to Church and Govt, do NOT jump on our bandwagon and inevitably destroy our good work for your own flag waving banner and aren't we good factor.

On the same subject, a man who was interviewed after visiting the food bank and walking away with a full bag, said he and his wife were both working but couldn't afford to feed the children properly, so just what were they spending their money on. I don't think the food banks were designed for that type of person, but they will become the majority if they start to think that it is the Govt/Church supplying the goods and not the generous big hearted people, and that is the danger of Govt/Church getting involved.

[Captain Kong]

both working but couldn't afford to feed the children properly, so just what were they spending their money on

What do they do with their Child Allowance? up to £20 a week for each child. The Reporters should ask if they smoke, or have mobiles I Pads , Do they go out for a drink while the kids are at home "STARVING", What about free school dinners ?
Everyone is being conned.
As I have said before, we didnt have those in the 30s or during WW2, we survived, nor during the time I had sons to bring up with no assistance. did not need food banks.
How many of our colonial cousins are going in to get a bag of groceries and putting them on sale in the corner shop??It happens.
and I am supposed to feel sorry.
Everyone is in charge of their own destiny, If you do not like your position in life then get out of it , change course and do something positive with your life. I have been there, unemployed with kids and a mortgage. no money, no benefits, rock bottom, and No Food Banks, I got wise to myself and changed course.
Brian.

[cappy]

each of us can only truly talk about siuations we truly if we have been in them......is there a person on this site who in there life was starving in a home atmosphere.....i dont mean adrift abroard.......but in a family life at home we went through thre 30s 40s 50s.....as i have said before my gran always whatever always had a big pan on the stove call it scouse pan hagglety are irish stew it was always there ...ok we might have been hungary waiting for a dish of it but starving no way ......i had working for me a cross section of wage earners ....textile wages were never good and most females ......worked for not much better than pin money ...but his and her wages fed the kids and just paid the bills with mebbes a sat night out.......as i grew up i never had a holiday ever .....iwas sent to aunts grannies etc due to my patents situation....but never was starving ....i found in my daily work there was a good cross section of male and female who would send out every day fos fish and chips or kentucky or curry for there lunch break.....and was asked why didnt i want the hot meals .....isaid cos i would have cheese and onion or tomato sarnie it cost me nowt......the same folk would ask me for a sub come wednesday for there lunch......my factory manager who was quite well paid and bright lad with four kids lived day and night on takeawaysit was costing him a fortune .......what happened to mince and taties ....bangers and mash .....chips egg and beans .....and of course the big stew..... if those people were both working full time and both on min wage at about 7 quid an hour him gross 280 quid her 280 ..joint income gross560 quid ......plus family allowance ........and they cant feed there kids ......well they should have the children taken off them......oh he had to have a tire for the car to get to work......did we ever have a car to get to work as we raised our kids......there must be folk among us who were brought up with 6 or 7 or more brothers or sisters but there was no food banks and we all survived its bloody disgracefull and another sighn of gimme gimme gimme....regards cappy