Ship losing its deck cargo of Cars.

[Ron Kendall]

Those vehicles did not appear to have the hand brakes on, or to have been left in gear, I did not see any lashings either, fancy leaving them loose on deck!

[happy daze john in oz]

This is interesting a Russian ship in heavy weather losing its cargo of cars
http://youtu.be/38jDQkkaxT8 Plus many other films of "Good Seamanship"????????????

A total of 64 cars were aboard cargo ship Astongate traveling from Toyama, Japan, to Vladivostok, Russia. After the storm hit the ship -- 52 of them ended up at the bottom of the sea. Whoever bought those cars signed a document allowing the cargo to be transported on ship's deck at their own risk.

cheers
Brian

Could have played car lotto, which one is going next?

[Ivan Cloherty]

Those vehicles did not appear to have the hand brakes on, or to have been left in gear, I did not see any lashings either, fancy leaving them loose on deck!

Not allowed to put cars in gear Ron, when being transported by sea, the pitch/roll ruins the transmission if left in gear. Once they have started to rock and roll on their suspension it is likely that the handbrakes on some have clicked off, as they all look like well worn second hand vehicles. If you look closely you will see that lashings have been used, but they are well worn webbing straps and would be condemned on the ships we sailed on and have just parted with overload for their condition. Just an out an out case of bad loading and couldn't give a sh** attitude by the look of it, all in all disgraceful seamanship practice. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys

[Gulliver]

BTW Frank, I see that you still sign onto the Corby Knowhere Board under various and fictitious names harrassing strangers that you've never met in a place that you've never been, is there a reason for that Frank? I believe they call that type of behaviour being a TROLL Frank, little old for that sort of thing are'nt you Frank?

I'm intrigued Tom,do tell us more! Don't tell me we have another sockpuppet aboard here?

[John Arton]

Just a thought. Those cars may not be cargo but private purchases by the ships crew. Many Russian ships still have 2nd hand cars brought by the crew for either their own use or to sell on in Russia.
The trade in LADA cars, for instance, from Hull to the Russian Baltic states at one time depleted the scrap yards of Humberside. Ships crew would buy any old LADA and on the way to Russia strip it of any usable parts and hen just toss the shell that was left into the North Sea.
Looks like the cars in the clip have been loaded quickly after paying cargo was completed and before the ship sailed by the ships crew.
rgds
JA

[Gulliver]

I see also (from Miramar) that she is one of the fairly early generation ro-ro's built 1984 by Rickmers,Bremerhaven in Germany.4,250 deadweight,twin screw and only 12.5 knots,so almost thirty years old ,and I would think she's in pretty poor condition anyway.......

History: 84 NORLANDIA 84 BARBER NORLANDIA - 85 NORLANDIA - 07 NILEDUTCH CABINDA - 11 ASTONGATE

[Captain Kong]

I remember being on the dreaded SUEVIC in 1955, outward bound to Australia with a deck cargo of Locomotives . six, of them
They came adrift in a storm in the Indian Ocean smashed everything on deck and then through the rails, the Skipper shouting to us on deck, "Get a line and lash them down." These weighed in at around 250 tons each and shunting up and down until they eventually disappeared. The chains had snapped, The `bogies` or wheels were down the hatch quite safe, The Engines were on wooden blocks and then chained. So they are now on the bottom of the ocean.
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. On the old FRANCONIA, in New York, the Stewards , who were always loaded on those Cunard boats, used to buy big Cadilacs, Chevies and Buicks and so on down by Pier 50ish, where there was always a sale by the City, of cars that had been impounded by the Police for Violations.
They could buy one for as little as 50 bucks.
They would drive them down to Pier 92 and the deck crowd would load them and stow them down N02 hatch into B Deck Square, The stewards would drop us a load of dollars for that and again when we dropped them off at the Pier Head in Liverpool. Then they would drive them home. Cunard Yanks posing, driving round Liverpool in the 50s in a BIG Yankee car, getting all the girls. Happy days those 50s.
Cunard allowed this, no insurance and only if we did the load and discharge.
Cheers
Brian.

[Captain Kong]

Who is Frank?????

[John Gill]

Probably one of Gullivers imaginary friends.

[Chris Allman]

For that matter who is Tom Stephens too ????