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13th December 2012, 03:07 PM
#11
ship aground
perhaps they should have gone to 'specsavers'
Colin
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13th December 2012, 03:34 PM
#12
grounding
reading the daily mail today,it states the ship had a crew of six........ maybe someone got caught short and had to spend time on the toilet... still having a hard time with crew sizes on these ships.
regards stan
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13th December 2012, 03:47 PM
#13
no ropes on today ships?
Hi shipmates ,is shore leave that hard to come by today, some people will do anything for a day on the beach. no damage done .... hopefully!!!! are they short of fuel.
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13th December 2012, 03:47 PM
#14
Six Men. What do ship owners expect. hope the ship is a write off.
Brian
Last edited by Captain Kong; 13th December 2012 at 04:25 PM.
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13th December 2012, 03:51 PM
#15
Like many incidents of this nature,it could be the man on the Bridge fell asleep. Since the down-manning of crew and the extra work load they have to take on, this type of accident is becoming very frequent around the coast. A vessel that size,what would you say was the number of crew?
ttfn.Peter.
PS.
On the Spanish coast, maybe Mucho Vino Collapso
A Nation of Sheep will Beget A Government of Wolves.

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13th December 2012, 03:54 PM
#16
Looks like our posts collided,and you beat me to it. Peter.
A Nation of Sheep will Beget A Government of Wolves.

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13th December 2012, 04:10 PM
#17
its unbelievable only 6 persons are expected to run this ship safely, they all cant be awake at the same time, its just lunacy.

Tony Wilding
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13th December 2012, 04:27 PM
#18
I wonder how many men in the Fire fighting team or the emergency boats crew if one falls over the wall.
Brian
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13th December 2012, 10:29 PM
#19
undermanning
Been saying this for the past 30 odd years. The 2 biggest faults in western ideas in shipping is undermanning and undertraining. Training for seamen has to be practical under seagoing conditions and cant be taught from a book in a classroom. The theory side may be ok, but by itself is useless as things never work out 100 percent as they are supposed to. I have been on a lot of different types of shipping and they all suffer from the same disease, for some of this I blame our own cloth for accepting such conditions, we are the ones who should know better, I have seen some of us pandering to the shipowners wishes whether to gain kudos or what is hard to say, but to me was just plain A.... licking. The situation now with ships plying congested waters with 6 of a crew is ludicrous, dont care if they are state of the art so called ships. I was once told to sail with 1 seaman and refused and resigned from the company, however someone else took her to sea, had an ER fire and had to return to port nobody killed fortuanetly. This is where Unions as such with ex knowledgable seafarers should be making noises. As there were no deaths on the recent grounding, whatever sort of hearing they have will be very low key as no loss of life, and will be mainly an insurance case. Until the next and the next until someone finally sees the light. Also the new certification as far as I can see leaves a lot to be desired, however I cannot in all truth make anything out of that as do not know the standards set, but if they are to Panamanian and suchlike will leave a lot to be desired. What was once an Honourable profession is sharply going downhill at the rate of knots. John Sabourn
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13th December 2012, 11:26 PM
#20
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