Becoming an ordinary seaman when one's inexperienced

[blue whale]

ho my, what a bash

it's not that I do not wish to train but thanks for some relevant infos anyway....

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Blue Whale
May the flukes be with you.
Des

[John Cassels]

Just noticed this thread ( now I know what started Captain Bill's thread).

Blue Whale , you did ask us in your initial post if there was any way to bypass these mandatory
requirements . That sounds to us that you do not wish to have at least a grounding in the
profession ( and make no mistake , profession is what it is - or used to be).

If you are not prepared to at least learn the basics , then you will put your and other's lives at risk.

But I think you appreciate that now.

[John Albert Evans]

ho my, what a bash

it's not that I do not wish to train but thanks for some relevant infos anyway....

How about telling us who you are, where your from and what jobs have you done to date.


John Albert Evans

[John Pruden]

how many were told in training schools about washing toilets scrubbing alley ways waiting on the boson lamps and chippy plus getting the deck crowd's meals cleaning the mess and the rec room then if you were Lucky every other week you were given a chipping hammer and a tin of paint? but i still would do it all again what days they were.john

[Gulliver]

It all sums up the last couple of generations really.

Multiple degrees (many of them of doubtful use or quality) and lack of motivation to start from the bottom and learn a profession...

We have spawned two successive generations of I.T. 'consultants', personal lifestyle trainers, X-Factor 'celebrity wannabes '.and two-a-penny MacDonalds or Coffee Costalot staff with worthless degrees or with their 'honorary everyone -gets -at least-ten ,GCSE these days 'qualifications to their name.

Gulliver

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates ,hi blue whale, going to sea in the old days was an education on some ships you learned in the school of hard knocks if you was not up to the job you did not last long at sea , it was not an easy life and you only got a small wage,and sometimes you would pay off with very little? that was then? Today I dont know?? what the jobs are about so much has change the ships the crews the way of life. Blue whale There are no short cuts to getting experieance in any job at sea or ashore.

[Keith Tindell]

Well Blue whale, i guess by now you have the general drift of our thoughts, basically you are p***ing into the wind, but you need to have tried that at sea to know the result, regards keith Tindell

[John Albert Evans]

ho my, what a bash

it's not that I do not wish to train but thanks for some relevant infos anyway....

BALAENOPTERA MUSCULUS.

That is Attachment 6341 if you dont already know.

For me the first line of your second post speaks volumes as to your attitude in general.
The vast majority of men I sailed with where extremely proud and good that their job, whatever department they served in and they all started at the lowest of rating and worked their way up, this way valuable knowledge was gained from the more experienced seaman, this was never forgotton and no doubt served them well when/if they left the sea and took up a shore based job. It certainly was in my case anyway.
For your information we may not have your written qualifications but we are intelligent and well read.
From the replies you have recieved on here you will note that everyone has signed by their own name and not a 'Nome de Plume' as you choose to.

I do await your name location and CV just out of curiosity. I am aware its your choice to provide it or not.

John Albert Evans

[Rodney Mills]

Blue Whale,

I think you're pulling our chain. However,this is another example of what you could have expected had you gone to sea at the same time as most members... And this from a best mate. Get in trouble ashore, he'd get back-to-back with you fighting off angry locals. Get sick, 'forget-about-it'. I had ingrown toenails on a Castle boat, the doctor peels the nails off, a plaster across each toe and I hobble back shoeless to my bunk.
I lay there all day, my toes throbbing. My mate comes in the cabin that evening and I'm starving. "Get me a sandwich Bernie," I said. "Oh your better"! He replies and out the door he went, back to work. See Blue Whale, back in our day the motto was. 'If your sick you can't eat...if you can eat your better.'

Rodney