John Prescott.

[Calvin Kent]

When you look at those eligible for treatment at the Seamen's Dreadnought Unit at St Thomas' you will find that union officials have managed to get themselves on the list. I'm not sure that was ever the intention at the outset but I class most union officials right up there with the others with their noses in the trough. Prescott being head porker.

Regards
Calvin

[happy daze john in oz]

[there with the others with their noses in the trough Prescott being head porker.

Pity really as pigs are quite inteligent.

Regards
Calvin[/QUOTE]

[robpage]

Unfortunately his Lordship represents to me where the Trade Unions have gone wrong over the years , these guys , Prescott , Scargill and quite a few others , started from humble backgrounds , worked themselves up the ladder , often stepping on others heads as they climbed , then instead of smelling the coffee , they smelt the caviare . They became embroiled in politics , leading , not their members to a better life , but leading a Socialist Revolution , where they would reign supreme . Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was Choristers School Durham and Fettes School Edinburgh , the Scottish Eton then after failing as a Rock Producer he went to Oxford , These people are no more a socialist than David , Call me Dave , Cameron is . The people like his Noble Lord Prescott , have clung to the coat tails of these labour pretenders , and they have all climbed into the positions of power and influence , They have financially done well ,, and they have abandoned the Labour Party behind in a bin somewhere , to create New Labour . They enjoy the media attention , the political power , I would no more follow the Likes of Bob Crow than I would follow a Lemming , in fact the Lemming's destiny is better known .

Our sad mistake was we trusted them , and whilst we stood there hapless they picked our pockets , and twisted the knife in the Trade Union Movement's back

[Capt Bill Davies]

Our sad mistake was we trusted them , and whilst we stood there hapless they picked our pockets , and twisted the knife in the Trade Union Movement's back

I never trusted anyone who had any affiliations to Unions. Nothing to do with having a BF background where they certainly had no foothold but experience as Master in the 70s and 80s when I had regular interface with the ITF ans that ilk.

Bill

[robpage]

I could never understand where the I.T,F came from , they criticized British and Commonwealth for the Zulu Crews and demanded that the Zulus got UK wages , what they got was shipped home and paid off , whilst British Seamen got the jobs at that rate , so they did well for the British Seamen , not well for the now unemployed Zulu . Yet today where catering crews get on Carnival as little as $50 a month , the living wage made up by gratuities , the I T F stand silent

Having watched the Union representatives over the last fifty years , I think show me the Union man , I will see a thief , because being an old cynic , ( they weren't all ex BF ) I have found the genuine men who take on that job never last in it .

I am sure there is a few examples , it is just that I have never met one yet , although I have never met a Yeti either , and they may be more common than the straight , honest caring , union rep

[John Arton]

Cannot remember if I have posted this before, so if it sounds familiar, forgive me.
Always knew that my first company had the Unions in their back pocket as they head hunted at least one union head man to lead the personnel dept. If there were 10 new supers cars in the car park (all with sequencal registration) but you knew that only 9 supers were eligible for company cars, then you knew the Union man was in the Office.
When we went onto offshore contracts the personnel guy plus Union rep flew out to Mexico where we had 4 ships permantley on the coast, to explain the new deal to us and how great it was for us as we would now have to organise and pay into our own pension fund etc.
All this took around a fortnight and after that the personnel guy flew home whilst the Union man stayed on visiting all the campos in Salina Cruz, Manzanillo etc. all at company expense, for a further fortnight.
One ship he visited he got the correct treatment, entering the lounge with a cheery hello lads, he stuck his hand out to shake the first person he could, who promptly lamped him. Apparentley this guy was no friend of the Union as they had failed completley to back him in an inquiry some time previously and he had had to hire his own solicitor at his own cost, despite being a fully paid up union man.
rgds
JA