The NHS

[John F Collier]

Have watched numerous discussions on all channels of TV and read numerous reports in various newspapers, not one politician or reporter has had the courage to say the obvious in that we are treating too many illegal immigrants or non EEC visitors taking advantage of our system. All you get is we need the immigrants, yes we may well do, but we need the 'legal and qualified' ones. Nor will they face the fact that we have a housing shortage because we are giving illegal immigrants priority, everybody is frightened of being labelled a racialist, we are not racialist we are common sense people who can see the bloody obvious staring us in the face

Well said Ivan, that is spot on. JC

[Keith Tindell]

This was the figure for 2015 for interpreters, kt

NHS spends £23m a year on translators: Costs rise as hospitals cater for 120 languages | Daily Mail Online

[vic mcclymont]

Just before Christmas Nottingham Hospital Trust announced that in order to increase efficiency it would reduce the number of beds.
How it increasing efficiency by reducing beds is beyond me, but a spokesman with straight face announced it on TV.
Now Nottingham Hospitals are crying a shortage of beds are causing problems with A&E and other functions.
Makes you wonder if they actually study their proposals in detail before making big announcements.
Regards
Vic

[Jim Brady]

Brian as you say your son is a surgeon the chap I seen on Saturday was also a surgeon and he was upset with the pay scale,he said there is no incentive in the NHS I do operations and the man in the next room does simple procedures and he is on the same salary as me.I think what he was aiming at is that this does not happen in Germany and France etc this is why they are having problems with recruitment.
Some time ago they made many nurses redundant due to being overstaffed.The ward I was on a nurse said to me I was on this ward with the NHS and I was made redundant I am now with an agency and I am getting twice the pay that I was on with the NHS.The NHS is paying megabucks to agencies why don't they just recruit these people back into the NHS.
In the late seventies I was in Walton hospital in what was known as Nightingale wards,OK not the best of places it had been a workhouse at one time but looking back I think that your time spent in a hospital at that time seemed tobe a far better experience than what it is today.About 30 beds an office at the top end and the nurses there 24/7 on the ward,they wouldn't let you go home then,I think you need a couple more days they would say,today they can't get you out quick enough.
I was saying to the surgeon,we used to get a fried breakfast,that set you up for the day,dinner time soup,main course say lamb potato's and veg followed by say rice pudding,tea time maybe fish and chips jelly and custard,take it or leave it.Today the menu choices are unbelievable,on paper fantastic,they come around the day before and take your order for the next day when it arrives absolute rubbish,all plates going back full.They should revert back to the simple Table d'hote menu and forget the A la carte and just give patients a good cooked square meal instead of the terribly cooked rubbish that they are putting out which is not eaten.I imagine the money saved on wasted food and galley staff could be put to far better use.
Regards.
Jim.b.

[vic mcclymont]

Jim, when I manages the lads football team, one of the Refs. was a Chef (cook)in the Queens Medical Center in Nottingham. His finger nails were always jet black.
Regards
Vic

[cappy]

Wonder what the wage is for a new surgeon in the nhs ......plus bonus etc ......but im damned sure if it was no good there wouldnt be any left in this country.......but i believe they can earn 200000 plus ...which is not bad .....the nhs will never be fully funded it is a bottomless pit......cappy

[John Pruden]

lads the fella I posted about going to live in America when he had his wedding party there friends of his new wife came for the party one man had leukaemia his medical bills run over a million dollars they finally found a marrow doner but he had spent all he had including his home to get to live in America Jason my room mate in hospital had to have a full scan that's when they found the lung cancer he never smoked in his life and was younger than me. my point is do we want our nhs being the same in one of todays papers someone said we should charge for certain things{I am sure they are reading our posts}drunks drug addicts ect so the man in America spent all he had worked for all his life could not afford any more treatment and will die for nothing do we want a system were people die for nothing but the mighty buck do we want our doctors to move to America or work with us go to any surgery the doctor works 10 house a day in a room sometimes smaller than the average bathroom I would not the stress they must be under just to work I am sure they don't do it for the money and should be well paid its just the red tape merchants never listen to the ones on the front line?? jp

[vic mcclymont]

Cappy, currently in Poland a number of trained Doctors are being educTed to speak English,the course last 13 weeks.
At the end of the course they are going to GP practices in Lincolnshire where they will earn £90k per annum.
After 3 years they get a bonus of £10k.
Regards
Vic

[Captain Kong]

I'm spoke to my son today on the phone.
He is not a happy man with the system we have now. He said If he didn't have a big mortgage he would pack it all in.
He said this week he has had to double up due to staff shortages, He started his Ward rounds at 0730 every day.and seeing 40 patients and that took him to 1330., None stop, no break, no cups of tea, just examining and discussing treatment and examining each patient. so on his feet for six hours without a break then he has to start in the theatre and when he finished that he has his clinic for out patients until 8pm in the evening.
He said he was totally worn out.
Where he is there used to be Three Hospitals now just the one. they were sold off and the land used for redevelopment for houses etc.
So that has caused a Big bed crisis.
The Hospital Managers are just creating targets that are not achievable. Managers do not have any Medical knowledge just any kind of degree, a short course and bingo, you have a hospital MANAGER He is only interested in Targets set by the Government,

As an example of what goes on, a few years ago he was a Senior Doctor/Registrar in a London Teaching hospital, teaching Junior Doctors,
Andy Burnham the Minister of Health gave the hospitals a target of More Consultants and More ethic ones as well.

He had been interviewed by the Managers and told he was to be a Consultant in the September. Then when Burnham made the new Targets the lad was called into the Office and they told him he was Not to be a Consultant, He had two Pakistani Junior Doctors under him who he was training, The Managers made the two juniors into Consultants. he asked Why?
He was told that now we have covered our targets, Two Consultants instead of one and two more Ethnic Consultants as well so we have achieved our Targets for the Government. That would make the Managers look good to Burnham
He said the two Junior Doctors were Not fit to be Consultants and that would put Patients lives in Danger, The Manager said It doesn't matter, We have achieved our targets That is more important. So the lad would have had the two Junior Doctors over him, Very embarrassing.
He then packed in and flew to San Diego and worked in a famous hospital there for six years, Far better treated and paid. and also became quite famous in his speciality over there, winning Awards from their Foundation.
That was England`s Loss.
When I was in Hospital in Honolulu three years ago the two Surgeons there both knew him quite well and even gave me his phone number so I could talk to him.
So a lot of it is Politics, No matter which political party is in power they are the same. Labour no different than Conservative.
and Managers who are only interested in Targets not Patients.
Brian

[robpage]

The Queen Alexandra Hospital in Portsmouth had me in two weeks ago on Tuesday as an urgent case for an intravenous drip no buds come back next Tuesday no beds so I'm going in again this Tuesday I actually think that my body given up with this bacteria that need an intravenous drip and my immune system has started to counteract it
Portsmouth hospitals were built with private finance initiative sorted out by Tony Blair one big mistake and one last hit that money got poured into at an alarming rate of millions it doesn't matter who the government did they all sing to with the health service , they play with it the worst it gets
Having been to Portsmouth hospitals a few times since 2014 the biggest problem at A&E is self-inflicted addicts who are down there because of cheap cider cheap vodka or a variety of drugs one Filipino doctor re mark one day they have a special place in the Philippines for
These people it is a large jail cell you put them in overnight and let them out in the morning the trouble is we have a duty of care here and we have to try and fix them .
You can't blame the immigrants these are local people , most of never had a job in their life and most of them are known well by the nurses in the A&E that they don't even that have to give their name .
Let's stop blaming the government blaming the doctor's blame in the unions and blaming everybody insight let's stop blaming a fellow man who goes down to the hospital with a bit of a cold because he can't get an appointment with the GP for a few days please time wasters I want area that needs sorting out and the other area is having been waiting for appointments and seeing the number of people who don't turn up has been 2 or 3 every time I've been for an appointment then that needs sorting out if you do that first you'll find at the problems of the NHS would be vastly reduced