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9th February 2017, 09:48 AM
#141
Re: The NHS
When you get old, and need care , the best thing to do is shoot a politician, they will send you down for life,
You will get Instant Medical treatment, Instant dental and Eye treatment, All Free and all your care is FREE, No need to pay exorbitant Care Home fees which are like prisons anyway.
No Bills to pay No gas, water or electricity bills to pay,. No grocery Bills to pay, all Your Laundry is done free.
Have a good Library,
Your family can visit you as often as they do now.
So that is the easy way, why suffer on the out side when the State will look after you for FREE.
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10th February 2017, 05:31 AM
#142
Re: The NHS
Every April private health insurance cover goes up in price with an approval of the minister for health. This year it will be limited to 5% or about $200 per household.
He then said any one under 35 should maybe consider if they need it or not.
Bit of a two edged sword as if you are working and not in private cover you are charged an additional 0.5% on your Medicare levey.
But the smart person should consider this, a practice I knew one nurse to do.
She worked out how much she would have to pay each month, then deducted 0.5% off that figure and made arrangements for the rest to be paid into a savings account. She had in that account, when she told me, over $100,000.
Private cover is good for elective surgery, knee, hip etc but for any life endangering the public is far better.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller

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10th February 2017, 11:34 AM
#143
Re: The NHS
The NHS said today, The Staff, Doctors and Nurses, in A&E are attacked every day 70,000 a year or 200 attacks a day. by drunks and druggies.
Why don't they have a separate building, with Big Hard Case Bouncers assisting, so that ordinary sick people can be treated with dignity by the excellent Staff.
My sister went to A&E recently, full of drunks fighting , blood everywhere, filthy language abuse to the Nurses, blood all over the floor, The Security men could not cope.
This is the reason why the A&E departments cannot cope and causing delays to genuine sick people.
Why should these dedicated people have to put up with all this mayhem and abuse and violence.?
If someone is violent to the Staff they should have a lifetime Ban on all treatments in the future.
Brian.
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10th February 2017, 11:54 AM
#144
Re: The NHS
Probably the problem is they don't have the money for plenty of good security,todays headlines NHS Spending back to the 50's.What we need is a good old Labour government back in power they don't worry about money spend spend spend is what we want,it's only money.If we run short we just print more,what's it called something like quantitative easing.I'm on a waiting list because they can't afford a thousand quid for an item I need.I'm sure cappy will agree with me 100% on this.Yes lets do away with austerity business it's been in a few years now and it hasn't worked.
Regards.
Jim.b.
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10th February 2017, 12:08 PM
#145
Re: The NHS
If they made all the Drunks, Druggies and all the self inflicted injuries and sickness, also immigrants and foreign Tourists, charged with the full cost of their treatment then they would have more money to spend on genuine sick and injured people and a quicker service in A&E.
Now is the time to get tough on the Bums.
I had to pay in the USA when I went to hospital. No problem they saved my life. It was worth it.
If people can afford to get Drunk or Take Drugs then they can afford to Pay to be treated in hospital, Leave the beds to genuine sick people.
Brian
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10th February 2017, 12:20 PM
#146
Re: The NHS
###i agree brian but does anyone think it wrong for a person in hospital to pay perhaps a 5 or 10 quid a week towards there keep .....i truly believe that apart from the drunks and junkies ..one of the main reasons of hospital pressure is cos of the ilk of us living much longer because of the treatment from the nhs we get in the ist place ....how many of us are here in older age because of the NHS benefits in medicine and treatment funded by our own NHS payments which in all honesty would hardly pay for a weeks stay by todays standards before we get the cost of an operation included.......just my thoughts cappy
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10th February 2017, 12:59 PM
#147
Re: The NHS
Cappy I reckon you realised my post was a bit of a joke what inspired me to post it was the fact that Brian continues to blame drunks,druggies and obese people for the state of the NHS,if those three things were all the NHS had to worry about they would be in clover.Try telling all these people laying on trollies and waiting on beds also cancelled operations "We're sorry but we have a problem with druggies drunks and obese people that is the reason for the delay".Millions of patients are suffering the longest ever waits for casualty care,beds,cancer treatments and operations.Experts blame Government NHS spending.which now stands at a measly annual growth rate of 1.1%.So Brian aim the blame at the right people.
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Jim.B.
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10th February 2017, 01:05 PM
#148
Re: The NHS
Hi Jim
I said
If they made all the Drunks, Druggies and all the self inflicted injuries and sickness, also immigrants and foreign Tourists, to pay
cannot see anything wrong with that.
Cheers
Brian
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10th February 2017, 03:32 PM
#149
Re: The NHS
Regarding delays for Cancer Treatments,
Last year I had cancer, it was discovered on Tuesday and I was operated on, on Saturday morning. They discovered another one during the operation and transferred me to another Cancer hospital; and on the following Tuesday had another operation for a big Malignant Tumour.
So Two Operations in one week of discovery.
Cannot complain about that.
But all I was saying was all these should pay for their treatment and that would bring down the waiting lists tremendously.
In this day why are there so many people sick, It was not like this in the 40s and 50s. people looked after their health better then.
Last year, over Two and a Half Million EXTRA people were treated in A&E as the year before. so why is there an extra two and a half million on top of the previous figure??
Immigrants, and people abusing their own bodies. Go to your local hospital A&E on Saturday midnight, you cannot get in because of drunks fighting and Druggies flaking out.
My Doctor son once worked in A&E in Liverpool Royal Hospital and he said it was like doing 15 rounds with Mohammed Ali every night. so he left.
Cheers
Brian
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10th February 2017, 03:52 PM
#150
Re: The NHS
At present the BBC is doing its usual job of bashing the NHS using one hospital in Blackburn to illustrate the pressure on the NHS, yet they have failed to show the otherside of the coin where hospitals down Ivan's way seem to work in tandem with local health care services to ensure that patients are rapidly discharged from hospital but with an appropriate care plan in place to allow them to fully recover at home.
They then trotted off to Germany to show how great things were there.
What they omitted to mention was that Germany spends 11.5% of its GDP on health services, the U.K. 9.5%
yet
By Dave the Rave's Parliament Bill the U.K. is committed to spending 0.7% of GDP on Foreign Aid whilst Germany spends 0.34% of GDP on foreign Aid.
Germany is the country whose leader said to all from the Middle East were welcome to come to her Europe which led to not only a disaster for Germany, now overrun by migrants, legal and illegal, but also put huge pressure on the U.K. to accept many of those migrants. Our NHS, Social and Education systems are all under strain due to the rapid increase in the U.K. population due in part by the forerunners of those migrants having large families (most of whom English is a second language to) as opposed to the indigenous population who has an average of 2 or less children all of who's native language is English and are now becoming marginalised by the influx of migrants over the decades.
Its next news item related to the "outcry" over the governments decision to wind up its program of taking young unaccompanied children from the refugee camps in France after initially saying that we would accept 10,000? of em. Apparently only 350 have come to date and when we saw pictures of the 1st arrivals they all were well dressed with the latest mobile phone and most of em looked around 18 years or more in age.
I have to ask myself, despite the no doubt horrors going on in their country why on earth are they sending their children off unaccompanied, if the children? can get out then surely the parents could?
So now we have another high court case attempting to force the government into re-opening our borders to these so called children.
rgds
JA
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