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12th December 2015, 04:16 PM
#41
Re: Medical coverage?

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JOHN PRUDEN
i like the way all the staff walk around with smiles on their faces and soft music in the background .. jp
Believe me they are not all sweetness and light as I discovered when my late wife was in one, as unbeknownst to them and unaware I was around the corner in the hospice upon leaving my wife's room I heard one of them say 'I wish she would hurry and go, we need the bed' well fortunately for them they didn't have long to wait she died early the next morning holding my hand, I have not forgotten both moments
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12th December 2015, 07:25 PM
#42
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Ivan what you experienced at that hospice was absolutely disgusting and should never have happened and OK I am defending Jospice International but I am 100% certain that that would not have happened here, JP described the staff spot on.Jospice was started by Fr.P. O'Leary a local boy from this area (He was on this is your life)he went to India on the voyage he met a couple who were C.O.E. they said to him if you ever need any help get in touch with us.After seeing people die in cow sheds or whatever without any dignity whatsoever he contacted the couple he met on the ship,I think they bought him a little car and funded him in other ways so Jospice was born in India and a place was built where people could go and die with dignity and in peace.He then moved to Peru and opened a hospice there and in fact whilst visiting a friend at Jospice some years ago there were Peruvian lads working there they brought much happiness to the place.Jospice here is set in the woods and you feel at peace yourself when you enter.A friend of mine was visiting his mother in law with his wife the MIL was just coming to her end Fr.O'leary said to my mate go into that out house and have a drink,a bar there with what you wanted to drink all free.Yes this is a good place with many volunteers and helpers just there to do good.This place is not funded in anyway by the government just private donations.Fr.O'leary has since died but his legacy lives on.Oh by the way you can be any religion or athiest you will still be welcome and well looked after in your final few days,or weeks for that matter..
Regards.
Jim.B.
CLARITATE DEXTRA
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12th December 2015, 08:26 PM
#43
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jim you are spot on there maybe in some hospitals the staff don't care as much for the ones leaving life a few years ago I was working on a building job there and such a calm and peaceful place you could wish for not a sound only the birds singing in the woods and the staff were great all the lads even stopped swearing{and that was a first} jospice is spotless inside and out and all the staff care. ivan so sorry you had the experience you did at such a time but that is down to the people in charge and it came from the top in our case you must have to be a very special person to work in a place like a jospice very professional too cold but warm too you know what the people are there for and visiting is 24/7 nothing is to much trouble for the staff and they go about their work in a happy professional manner.. jp
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12th December 2015, 09:18 PM
#44
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In the Bolton Royal Hospital my sister in law was put on the Liverpool Pathway, No food, no drinks, no resuscitation. We expected to go in a week or so.
But her sons took her back to the Care Home and they fed her and she recovered, was out of bed and walking around again, She lived for another 18 months.
I think that Liverpool Pathway has been stopped but not too sure. many must have died unnecessarily
Brian
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12th December 2015, 10:42 PM
#45
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on the Liverpool care pathway, you are put on a syringe driver which gives morphine in increasing doses in next to no time, you go into a coma, and pass away.It has been stopped, I believe,but I don't know what method is used today
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13th December 2015, 03:17 AM
#46
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My nephews wife is in one of those Hospices, and it is really a beautiful place to be,for some one who i suffering and no chance of recovery.My nephew can not fault the place at all.It has really eased his mind,they are all so good to her and all so to him.I have seen photo's of the place and it is so beautiful.
Last edited by Charlie Hannah; 13th December 2015 at 03:18 AM.
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13th December 2015, 09:38 AM
#47
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Not saying my #41 is proactive throughout the hospices, just my personal experience and one I cannot forget, I try to now understand that they may have been under stress and it may not have been their normal attitude, but I cannot help thinking that it was, and had someone less mentally strong than myself overheard this then it would have been quite devastating for them. I had to be strong having to explain to two 16 year old daughters that their young mother had gone, just at a time when the three of them were at a stage where mothers and daughters start swopping clothes and fashion ideas, also had employees and their families to consider, never heard from that hospice after I was given my wife's possessions in a carrier bag when I left a few hours after her death. Luckily I now live over 200 miles from that particular hospice so may not need it, hopefully mine was a one off experience.
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13th December 2015, 09:44 AM
#48
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A sad and tragic experience none of want to go through Ivan,
I feel for you and your daughters.
All the best
Brian.
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14th December 2015, 05:53 AM
#49
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Euthanasia is fine for those who want it, but befote we begin to 'put people down' like we do with sick animals there would need to be some very strict rules. Without them terrible situations could arise, aunt Mary is on her last legs and will leave us a fortune when she pops her clogs, give her a dose now and get it over with. That is why tough rules arte required. But it is a well known fact that every day doctors perform this service, usually with a very large dose of Morphine. Tow relatives on mine including dad went that way, not saying it was good but at the time there was no coming back for them anyway and they were unconscious at the time.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller

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14th December 2015, 09:56 AM
#50
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My eldest daughter is a staff nurse in a local children's hospice and I can tell you that after the stories she tells us about her patients, if you thought we had hard jobs, its nothing like what she has to do on a daily basis looking after sick, disabled and dying children.
rgds
JA
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