in answer to your question lewis ...yes i did when in business call myself a business man .....dealing with some crafty Wary Orient Gentlemen....including a good relationship with a large french company .....laniere de picardy ....who are i believe still in existence worldwide with interests including ..in my time there own ships plus many other interests must say they were very good payers and good to deal with ....seem to recall the group was chargeurs...or similar.....