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25th January 2015, 12:36 PM
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Can anyone say Why during the present conflicts with ISIS where different countries have some of their Nationals taken prisoner by ISIL and publicly executed and shown on national television to audiences all round the world, that this apparently is shown at various governments permission to do so. I would of thought that ISIS or whatever terrorist group is doing such is more for the propaganda and fear intended and all of such is to their advantage. Apart from the grief this must impose on these poor individuals relations and colleagues, wouldn't it be better to bar as much as possible of all this visual reporting of such and trying to blank of as much as possible all these propaganda and attributes these murdering sods get from such open viewing, should to my way of thinking be blanked off. We are fighting a war once again with one hand tied behind the back. The only news coming out of a governments mouth in the case of war, should be spoken communiques given when necessary and deprive the enemy of any advantage to propaganda, shut them off to the world as a non entity. At least fight a war without the media having such an input. Or is this going against a persons libertys the way things are going, if at the same thinking levels, people will soon have no libertys in any case. I have no idea what army and forces chiefs are in charge or is it a a political level that such obviously terrorist led propaganda is allowed to be aired. JS
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25th January 2015, 05:56 PM
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Couldn't agree more John, I recall the piece of crap that walked into a nursery school in Dunblane Scotland and randomly executed 16 young babies and a nursery teacher a few years ago, I rang a local radio station here on Merseyside and suggested that the press or newspapers in my opinion shouldn't even print his name let alone a picture of him on the grounds that after the act he took his own life, And by doing so you are giving him the notoriety that he yearned, There was hundreds of calls to the late evening presenter who agreed with me. The inquiries in the aftermath overseen by Baron William Cullen, Brought in big changes to gun laws across the U.K. And just like the atrocities you mention by ISIS, They should not be given the media coverage which is seen as a trophy in there eyes. I found it interesting that we could actually be given exact numbers of people who have travelled from different countries in Europe to Syria expected of being radicalised, And regarded a threat to national security or likely would be terrorists, WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they allowed back in Europe at all. One even faked his death and entered through the back door. And guess who has the greatest number of expected radicles in Europe back in there country. The United Kingdom. Terry.
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25th January 2015, 06:18 PM
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isis obviously are not a religious faction what holly book in any religion condones kidnap ransom demands murdering people by beheading on camera I cant think of one? these are just in it for money and strike terror well all the countries who have had citizens murdered have money and the weapons to strike terror back into the terrorists own back yard and should do it by any means necessary and they should be rooted out across the world and destroyed without mercy its a war the world cannot afford to loose so end the faction totally even making the likes of an ss brigade Brazilian death squads whatever it takes and at whatever costs? a dead martyr is better than a live bomber any day... jp
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25th January 2015, 07:15 PM
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John, This is something I can never get my head around, When N.A.T.O. Calls for a summit or meeting on any subject you will see all the member states flags flying side by side, Why cant they stand side by side when they are all threatened in this way, Britain and a few others have done at least something to bite back................ Where are the rest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When it comes to making a stand there are 28 member countries yet it seems like its the 12 founder countries that are the only ones prepared to confront this problem. As you say this is a world wide war against terrorism not just a minority know one is immune to the threat ISIS Presents. Terry.
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25th January 2015, 07:36 PM
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unless we bring back the death penalty for these things take away any bargaining chips deport what's left of any family weather born here or not families know where the kids go so they are just as bad? start cleaning the country out and to hell civil liberties human rights and tree huggers we have the right to live in peace and its only a matter of time when there are mass killings here? jp
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25th January 2015, 07:43 PM
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JOHN PRUDEN
unless we bring back the death penalty for these things take away any bargaining chips deport what's left of any family weather born here or not families know where the kids go so they are just as bad? start cleaning the country out and to hell civil liberties human rights and tree huggers we have the right to live in peace and its only a matter of time when there are mass killings here? jp
John, Nothing more certain, Not if but when. Terry
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25th January 2015, 08:17 PM
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#4 Ted, many of the 28 of the EEC have a major ****** population and if you widen the net to include NATO then the ****** factor increases and you will find that these ****** countries are reluctant to take issue with other ****** countries because it will cause fraction with the different sects within those ****** countries.
By the way I am sick to death of this ****** nonsense as I feel sure that every ****** who may read this is already aware of what ****** translates into and it ain't 'lovers'
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25th January 2015, 08:27 PM
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Ivan, I also think we have a pretty large community of ****** ourselves in the U.K. Don't make that an obstacle or excuse for not taking a stand against terrorism. N.A.T.O. MAN UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Don't LOVE UP. Terry.
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25th January 2015, 09:30 PM
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nato is turning into a toothless tiger if you have a rabid dog you put it down these are rabid people who are a threat to the world peace they are killing for money no a religious cause follow the money and show no mercy to arms dealers heads of state and bankers that hold the purse strings notice they have stayed out of Israel their motto never again should be taken up by the rest of us you cant fight a war with both hands behind your back we have to use barbaric way to fight isil everyone knows it carpet bomb anywhere they are living and use what we would call any dirty tactics necessary don't wait till its in your backyard even if mass deportations and annex countries no one in or out keep all the rats in the one place this has nothing to do with any religion known to man when kids as young as 8 are being fitted with suicide vests young girls kidnapped for sex slaves in Africa villages raised to the ground what are we becoming to let people to get away with crimes like this would any body care if the isil was killed by the thousand drop down to their level its will need troops on the ground but this time not on a lie and not stop till all leaders are tried and hung in public and may be the good living people of ***** can carry on living in peace without being tarred with the same brush? jp
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26th January 2015, 03:14 AM
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Hi John.
The Saudi King has just died, look who goes over there to sympathize, Prince Charles, Obama.
Cameron etc. In Saudi Arabia last year 48 people were beheaded, this year already there have been 14 including a foreign woman worker who was fitted up for murder she was held down by three policemen while another cut her head off, taking three strokes to do it. Now while I'm all for the death penalty for various crimes some of these are for political descent. Saudi Arabia are not only financing the terrorists, where do they think all the Isis arms are coming from including British arms to the terrorists via the Saudi's, where else could their massive amounts of arms be coming from, they can isolate countries like Iran who the Saudi's hate but can't isolate the Isis
I think there are many countries gaining from this war like they did in Spain in the civil war there.
Cheers Des
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