Utopia tonight 10.35 ITV

[Captain Kong]

Whilst I do agree that they are treated really badly, and more could be done for them, but
there are some things they could do to help themselves,
It showed a bathroom, the toilet bowl was all 5h1t stained, never been cleaned for yonks. rubish around their homes just dumped outside.
They are not overworked so have time to do a bit of domestic cleaning.
Cheers
Brian.

[Richard Quartermaine]

#57 We don't seem to have any more updates.
Catchy tune that. 'And they dried his hide when he died Spide,
And that's it hanging on the shed'.
Richard

[EIFION]

Sorry to have to tell you J Sabourne but the Anglo Saxons did not even exist in Germany let alone Britain at the time of the Roman Invasion.

[EIFION]

Ivan , I do so like your distorted make believe view of history , Where did you get it from ? Kipling poems perhaps

[cappy]

ah but the druids were there ....and the angles

[robpage]

RE Post 63 & 64

In prehistoric times, the territory of Saxony was the site of some of the largest of the ancient Central European monumental temples, dating from the 5th century BC. Notable archaeological sites have been discovered in Dresden and the villages of Eythra and Zwenkau near Leipzig. The Slavic and Germanic presence in the territory of today's Saxony is thought to have begun in the 1st century BC. Ptolemy's Geographia, written in the 2nd century, is sometimes considered to contain the first mentioning of the Saxons. Some copies of this text mention a tribe called Saxones in the area to the north of the lower River Elbe. However, other copies call the same tribe Axones, and it is possible that it is a misspelling of the tribe that Tacitus in his Germania called Aviones. According to this proposal, "Saxones" was an attempt by later scribes to correct a name that meant nothing to them. On the other hand, Schütte, in his analysis of such problems in Ptolemy's Maps of Northern Europe, believed that "Saxones" is correct, and notes that the loss of first letters occurs in numerous places in various copies of Ptolemy's work, and also that the manuscripts without "Saxones" are generally inferior.,


Schütte also remarks that there was a medieval tradition of calling this area "Old Saxony". In opposition to this, other authors point out that sources such as Bede who mention Old Saxony, might be interpreted as saying it was near the Rhine, somewhere to the north of the river Lippe, and were in any case not familiar with the area personally.[10]
In 441–442, Saxons are mentioned for the first time as inhabitants of Britain, when an unknown Gaulish historian wrote: "Britain falls under the rule of the Saxons".[citation needed]
The first undisputed mention of the Saxon name in its modern form is from 356, when Julian, later the Roman Emperor, mentioned them in a speech as allies of Magnentius, a rival emperor in Gaul. Zosimus also mentions a specific tribe of Saxons, called the Kouadoi, which have been interpreted as the Chauci, who entered the Rhine and displaced the recently settled Salian Franks from Batavi, whereupon some of the Salians began to move into the Belgian territory of Toxandria, supported by Julian.In order to defend against Saxon raiders, the Romans created a military district called the Litus Saxonicum ("Saxon Coast") on both sides of the English Channel.

So as reluctant as I am to agree with a Navigating Officer let alone two Ships Masters , Eifion , I feel that in this case the Venerable gentlemen were on this occasion correct ,

[cappy]

#64ivan went of today to his family in the south ......he did mention it in an earlier post today regards cappy

[robpage]

Wey eye man , weave gotta bleedy intanet as well ye no , mine cums on me fur kin fone as weel . Jus cus weer in the Fur kin soothe we nay all essex men ya noos

[cappy]

why ya bugger a magic phone.......wouldye dare to swoppit ......for me whippet me flat hat two pigeons......very fast and two goes at the back of the old lifeboat.....with one legged cross eyed mary who ses she remembers you from the 60s in canny shields......please answer quick cos if you say yes a weenthev to feed the dog and two pigeons an aall book mary now ......but coming from doon the re send ya phone forst ya bugger man

[Chris Allman]

ah but the druids were there ....and the angles

Ah Cappy would that be the right angles - or the obtuse angles