Utopia tonight 10.35 ITV

[cappy]

#22 grow more trees jim grow more trees

[cappy]

#30 the power of words ivan wonderfully put......

[happy daze john in oz]

Jim #19, that quote actualy came from an Aboriginal that I know quite well. But we of the UK are one of the biggest mixed bunches you could ever wish to meet. Fom Angls, Saxons, Jutes, Romans, Vikings, and who knows how many other nations make up the heritage of the nation? But what is man to do, sit in the tree all day or make use of his brain and improve his situation. Over milenium man has devloped to the state he is in now, mainly from the West I agree, but what was to stop any nation improving to the same extent? In many countries, particularly midlle East it has been the so called religeous beliefs and conditions that have held so many countries from moving forward as the West has. Afghanistan, Iraq etc could have moved on from the way they were hundreds, if not thousands, of years ago but remain in the past.

This planet is finite and one day will end, but in the mean time why not attempt to imporove your situation. Were it not for the efforts of some we would still have many of the diseases of years past, nothave the internet and many other things that today we take for granted. Had early man not moved on we would still be living in mud huts.

Yes Britain may well have exploited other countries, but had it not been them do you think it would not have occured? No, some other country would have done it. Look what the Spanish conquistadors did to many parts of South America and the Canary Islands!

No country on this planet is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but some have done alot better than others.

[Captain Kong]

China has now colonised most of Africa that has mineral wealth. Gold mines, Uranium mines etc.
No one complains about them.
Only two years ago in Zambia, the miners went on strike, The Chinese Army executed by firing squad, eleven Zambian Miners, the strike ended.
Not a peep from `Do-Gooders.`
Brian

[Jim Brady]

That is all that is bad about Colonist Brian.No one said a peep,no money is more important than life!!!
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Richard Quartermaine]

From the very beginning it is the law of the jungle and its total evolutionary outcome that has dictated the scheme of things as they are now. Even down to the modern so called superior being, man who has fought, mostly viciously, his/her way through history in every inhabited part of the planet to become the ruling occupier of land. There is no doubt that weaker nations would, did and will get swallowed up if not by one, by one of the others that are stronger.

I thank my lucky stars that I happened to be born in this place, in this phase, worked hard and enjoyed the rewards. Already there are those that are trying to take that opportunity away from my descendants.

Richard

[Jim Brady]

When Colonising Australia the British Government used the term Terra Nullius (meaning land of no-one) to justify the dispossession of indigenous people.Traditional Aboriginal systems of tribal land ownership were neither recognised or acknowledged.Colonial and later national development was based exclusively to the English legal system.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

But Jim, if we had not colonised Australia, Others would have and most were and are far worse than we were.
As I said the Chinese or even Japanese in WW2, would have taken over and that really would have been far worse for the Abo.
Brian..

[Ivan Cloherty]

But Jim, if we had not colonised Australia, Others would have and most were and are far worse than we were.
As I said the Chinese or even Japanese in WW2, would have taken over and that really would have been far worse for the Abo.
Brian..

That would have been alright Brian, they weren't classed as white, only the whites were barbarians according to what I'm reading on this forum, keep up mate!

[Jim Brady]

I cannot understand the last two posts.Nobody is arguing the toss of who did Colonise or who may have Colonised it and how people would've been treated differently the point is that these Aborigine people have been given a bum deal!!!They drink alcohol!!! who's fault is that,did they have alcohol before we went there.If you cannot see in 200 hundred years that we could not take these people from the "Stone age" to 2013 and put them into education and into proper housing if there was a will it could not have been done.So it looks like the "Whinging Poms" have moved up the social ladder a few rungs so it is now their turn to pick on a people less fortunate that themselves,they have short memories!! No matter how far up the ladder they may climb they will still be a "Whinging Pom".
Regards.
Jim.B.