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19th May 2013, 01:13 PM
#41
The NHS in a day.
Jeremy Hunt ,Health Secretary claims that record waiting times at A&E are caused by "overwhelming pressure" at the department.A leaked NHS England report reveals 89,215 fewer emergency patients in the first three months of this year compared to 2012.
Regards.
Jim.B,
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19th May 2013, 01:40 PM
#42
When I hear the liberal lefties wanting to liberalise and de classify cannabis , I think about at least six adults that I know with Schizophrenia and paranoia all ex and current cannabis smokers , at least tobacco only screwed your lungs up not the brain
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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19th May 2013, 02:18 PM
#43
Jeremy Hunt ,Health Secretary claims that record waiting times at A&E are caused by "overwhelming pressure" at the department.A leaked NHS England report reveals 89,215 fewer emergency patients in the first three months of this year compared to 2012.
Regards.
Jim.B,
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Hi Jim ,
those figures are not that startling.
There are approximately 500 A & E Departments in England
89,215 patients in three months. call it 90,000. equals 30,000 a month, equals 1,000 a day in England in a 30 day month.
So divide by 500 E & E Departments, equals only two Patients per A & E
So there is not a lot of difference. they are almost equal.
All those figures could rise dramatically on a couple of Saturday nights.
Cheers
Brian.
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19th May 2013, 06:20 PM
#44
The NHS in a day
Brian how can you divide the figure by 500, some A&E's may get 10 on a Saturday night when a hostpital in Liverpool could get 200 and it is not divisable by a day,2 patients a day wouldn't be noticed.The report shows 94 out of 152 NHS trusts fail to see patients within four hours-Twice the number missing the target a year ago,this can only be put down to cut backs.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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19th May 2013, 07:43 PM
#45
It was only an average of all 500 A&Es Jim.
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I have been in my local one when it has been very quiet and other times at weekend it has been like the football disaster in there. that is why they had to have a Police Station built into the A&E to stop the fighting.
Usually I have been seen to by a Nurse and assessed and then waited an hour before seeing the doctor and his Staff. last July I was taken in by ambulance and seen immediately, I was in there for 6 hours being treated on drips of pain killers. then they got me a bed.
It is all swings and roundabouts. on the day or Night, if you go by ambulance or walk in. Different scenarios.
Last June I took Anne to Salford Royal Hospital at midnight on Sunday, the waiting room was full but she was seen to in less than an hour and on our way home half an hour later.
In Honolulu I had to wait outside in a qeue for half an hour before anyone saw me, very busy place.
Then four hours on the inside being attended to before getting a bed.
So it is very similar over there. apart from recieving a bill.
Cheers
Brian.
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19th May 2013, 08:06 PM
#46
The NHS in a day.
I cannot understand why they let these scals bring their mates in they sit around the floor often near a door that is automatic as they are moving about the doors are opening and closing very annoying and also letting in the cold in the winter.I was dealt with right away when I was rushed in last year and after a few hours of observation I was taken down to a ward and checked on about every 2 hours.There are some smart ar**s that know how to beat the system,if you fell two days ago and you attend A&E they ask how long have you had this,you tell them 2 days,you go to the back of the queue with the triage system.I have sat there for hours and seen people come and go,come in after me and go straight through.They may have fell two days ago and are now feeling the pain,they are asked when did this happen,just now they say and are pushed to the front of the queue.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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19th May 2013, 09:18 PM
#47
christmas night we lost our dear sister in law we had to wait over 3 hours while we waited for the police to get a statement of my brother in law because of a death at home all the time there were drunks and drug addicts coming in handcuft to police men it was bad enough going through the loss but seeing what was going on around us was very depresing to the family at that time it was the very last place you wanted to be a true night to remember it could have been handled a hell of a lot better.jp
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19th May 2013, 09:45 PM
#48
I think there should be a Seperate Department in A&E for any drunk, skally or druggie away from decent people who just want the treatment they need.
Service would be a lot better, any waiting time let them wait.
The Staff at times are rushed off their feet and get very little thanks for the job.
Cheers
Brian.
Last edited by Captain Kong; 19th May 2013 at 09:46 PM.
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19th May 2013, 10:09 PM
#49
I like that idea , call it EXIT
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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20th May 2013, 06:35 AM
#50

Originally Posted by
Captain Kong
Each Doctor`s Surgery or Medical Centre has a Budget based on the number of patients on their books. My Surgery has 10,000 Patients on its books. So the Government pays an amount for each Patient per annum.
In some areas, not a lot of people visit their Doctor, in other areas nearly everyone attends.
If the Doctor sends a Patient to the hospital to see a Consultant then the Consultant charges the Surgery for his time. The Surgery pays. If you have a Scan or an Xray or Blood test then the Surgery pays for that. and so on.
Some Doctors are reluctant to send patients to a hospital to be seen by a Consultant or have Xrays and Scans because it comes out of his Budget.
If you feel you need to see a Consultant at the Hospital then Demand it from your Doctor.
Recently , after my operation in Hawaii the Doctor told me to have a CT Scan on my Pancreas when I returned home, my Doctor was very reluctant to send me for one, I saw another Doctor at the Surgery and she sent me for one. So OK . Do not take the first refusal.
Cheers
Brian.
THat is the worst kind of medical system I have ever heard of. If your GP is more concerned with protecting his budget then you have Buckleys of getting treatment. Why then did we all pay into the NHS via our weekly stamp?


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