Who Will Be To Blame ???

[robpage]

If you take the population at AD 1000 to be 1,000,000 , John , and that was 30 generations ago , the facts become quite amazing , we all have some Royal bloo, as you say everyone's past would turn up some surprises and a good mix

[John Pruden]

brian don't go poking in the past you and hayou might be family??????

[John Cassels]

I always used to think it was something special to visit the UK after being an expat for so long.

Now I'm not so sure .................

[happy daze john in oz]

In reply to Leratty#40. Yes Labor came in with a good majority in 2007 under Rudd the dud as he turned out to be. The problem was his style of management, no consultation, his handling of the GFC, bad choice of ways to deal with it resulting in a massive debt after inheriting a very good surplus. Bad policy such as mining tax brought about without consultation. Then as you know Lady MacBeth got into him and she has made a bad situation worse. Yes if they get the Tiuana it will be their own fault, as for calling an election almost 9 months out is pure lunacy. The PM has the right to call the election at a time of their liking, lost the plot on that one.

As to compulsory voting, not true. What is compulsory is turning up at a polling booth toe have your name crossed of. Many leave it at that and do not vote. The we have the crazy' how to vote cards', all part of the preferential voting system.

We have over the years taken in persons from almost 100 nations, most get on well but of late there are begining to emerge, ghetto style areas, and th umemployment rate amongst many of the 'boat arrivals' is well above the nationall average even 5 years after their arrival. The question is of course are they genuine refugees or just economic ones looking for what they can get not what they have to offer.

[Red Lead Ted]

I don't have a problem with, But we are going into overload unless this government closes our boarders to more E.U. Migrants by whatever means its our children's children that will be the sufferers. Back in the early 80s this country had nearly 4 million people unemployed and no prospect of getting work in industrial areas mainly in the north. So a lot of us took Norman Tebbit's advice and got on our bikes and found work i spent the hungry years of the 80s in Liverpool working in London i had 4 hungry mouths to feed. And this is were it differs from the 80s to today's unemployed. A lot of work was cash in hand or the black economy which 1,000s undertook the money they earned they spent in this country creating growth and keeping a lot of companies going. Today's black economy is mostly undertook by Asian or Eastern Europeans who as J Pruden rightly points out undercut our youth who want a little more than living 10 to a house. Asians and Eastern Europeans working in this country will tell you themselves they send there earnings back home which as a result can only drag our economy down and create what we are experiencing know no growth. Things have to change and immigration has to be up with the most wanted in Britain today. Regards all Terry.

[happy daze john in oz]

Terry has a valid point there. The UK, like here in OZ, now has a minmium wage rate. Many of those from Eastern EU countries would see that wage as something very special and would be willing to work for it. When you live five or more families to a house such wages are more than enough to live on. However for the average family it is not. Then there wil always be the employer who will offer less than the minimum and there will be workers willing to work for it. Until something is done about the number of illegal persons in the nation it will be hard to resolve this issue. A good reason to have some form of national identity card for all legal persons instituted.

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates , The new U.K. is multi national and will become more so in the future , with eastern europe/ Turkish people filling up all the citys over the next few years My biggest fear is we will become like France massive estates, full of unemployed young people who are looked on as cheap workers, or low lifes trouble -makers, this will cause big social probelms in the U.K.. The con/lib government will make a start on rounding up the many thousands of illegals /asylum seekers {failed} in the next few months a private company, has the contract so it wont cost us the taxpayer £25,000 for one{ its a no deport no pay time} The system {passport} very hard to get one today offices across the country have been closed due to government cuts I.D. cards was too expensive to run and very easy to cheat.bogus I.D. is big business in the U.K. one illegal crook got caught a few months ago with a few bank accounts worth millions and property' after 3 years trading .

[Jim Brady]

Dispatches Channel 4 tonight 8thApril Immigration Undercover.Investigating the system processing Britains Immigrants.......

This show is now on next Monday 15th April 8pm Channel 4.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[John Pruden]

this could be sorted easy give the contract to ATOS nobody gets past them they would start emptying the country.jp

[John Pruden]

is there a law for us and one for those who drop thier hook here?jp