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6th March 2013, 05:26 PM
#31
Very little difference from Hitler's pre war polices Brian, substitute the words Jew and Slav for ****** and Eastern European on many of the comments here and what is left but Hitler's ideas that ethnic Arians were the master race and were being threatened by imigrants in their own country , mass deportations, fear of strange clothing worn by orthodox Jews, blaming foreigners for the Great Depresion and hyper inflation. Advocating the excesive use of capitol and corpral punishment, his paranoid fear of socialism , his intense hatred of trade unionism. his disregard for international law, treaties and conventions
He did not start out with extermination camps, compulsary steralisation, euthanasia and the eventual destruction of his own country but that is what the road he trod inevitably led him. As for wishing he had won , that remark does not deserve a serious reply, all I will say is that I do have fair hair and blue eyes , pehaps I may have survived
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6th March 2013, 11:01 PM
#32
Nobody here has given any support to Hitlers way of thinking all that has been done is point out what the government has done wrong we would have made pointers to what they did right but as of yet there are none
Go back to the 1960s when the baby boom after the war started looking for work there were not enough jobs to go round the 70s saw the closing of palaces and worked shipped abroad the 80s we became close to a 3rd world country 90s everything was automated now even the factories that make the robots are automated
Look at the state of things now there are millions unemployed and so the biggest import is more workers There are 3 places near me that i know personally only employ imported workers they do 60+ hours a week for a flat rate i know people that have been turned away from factories because they only read write and speak English
I saw an old guy in the street 2 weeks ago bought him a coffee and sausage butty he had his dole stopped because he was not applying for a minimum 3 jobs a week the only jobs advertised in the area he was not qualified for Hell near 10 years at sea with an AB s ticket and i am not qualified as i don't have an stcw95 that anyone can get with a 2 week course and the answer to problems like these is bring in more labour they have the tickets (might not have the skills training experience but they have the tickets )
Until we get someone in government that does not lie steal cheat and line their own pockets things are only going to get worse we cant blame the Poles Czechs or any of the others we import for this mess things are even worse over there the only people we can blame are the politicians for allowing it and the factory owners looking for cheap labour so they make more profits
Look at the pay rates verses the cost of living the figures speak for themselves there were some property development schemes in this area allowed because it was affordable housing which i may be misguided here but thought that meant local people could afford to buy /rent the way the wages are here and bank mortgage laws affordable housing is around 80k max so why was the cheapest of these places 300k
So as for major law updates IF I COULD change one and only one it would be to have all politicians required by law to undergo a check for mental health problems followed by a maths test without using calculators
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7th March 2013, 06:46 AM
#33
i am sure members would pay an extra couple of bob to buy British made goods to keep our businesses going in this country. bring back the made in England stamp.jp
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7th March 2013, 08:43 AM
#34
finally the government has admitted we have an immigration problem they only have to come on this site? are we the only ones who can see the big picture!!!!!!!jp
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7th March 2013, 08:51 AM
#35
The Government loves Immigration,
It gives ten men to one mans job, thus keeping wage claims down, just be thankful you have a job, so no strikes for more pay.
Brian
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7th March 2013, 10:06 AM
#36
If you could.
It would be an offence for any country to interfere with the running of a sovereign state by way of invasion or assistance of others to overthrow the government of that sovereign state.These offences should be treated as war crimes and the cabinet of the country responsble should be charged with such.Is Iraq a better place?maybe for some but not for all.Afghanistan,the Russians could'nt do it and as soon as Western troops pull out the Taliban will be back in charge.Both of these conflicts have cost billions and the sad loss of British lives,do you think these country's thank us for our troubles?not bloody likely.Assisting Libya cost us £1.75 billion,we've got no money did Georg Osbourne find that in his back pocket.William Hague now wants to assist the rebels in Syria.It will start off with armoured vehicles and body armour,it is against the law at the moment to supply them with arms but he is trying to get that changed.He is exacerbating the situation resulting in the loss of more lives, so here is a case where he should be charged with war crimes.There are 1000 rebel groups from all over the world fighting in Syria it is not an opposition party trying to overthrow a bad government,the result will be lots of War Lords with infighting making it a very dangerous place from what was a pretty stable country.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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7th March 2013, 10:42 AM
#37
rocky I agree with a lot u say but don't tell me about factory owners weve now got very few factorys left wot reason would u give for that inmy factory which employed up to 50 persons the staff worked 36 hours per week my son and I worked a min of 84 hrs the overdraft to finance the factory was on our houses one bloke never came in for over 3 weeks we wrote to him and telephoned no reply so sent his cards and set a new guy on result a bloody tribunal he go just under 6 months bloody wages for unfair dismissal later found out he had been to Jamaica on holiday the tribunal was made up of a well known scots union manfrom the shipyards in Glasgow aretired council worker and a retired postman elf and safety were never awaya young female about 22 or 23 all hands booed when she came in she stopprd production therefore peoples wages some weeks all hands got paid no money for our selves but we perseverd and in the end we got the factory paid for we paid our mortgages offwe paid the over draft off and we bought property and fine cars I owe nobody anything and icould go on my people were neveron a min wage always more at least we paid our taxes and a lot more so don't call me agreedy factory owner best wishes to you cappy from shields
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7th March 2013, 11:08 AM
#38
how to stop the rot
Hi shipmates, What has happen to the British skilled workforce over the last 30 years, its all gone !!! the jobs are not in heavy industry anymore, but service ,retail and finance have taken over. lower payed mostly unskilled . Every job that pays a good wage is taken, or its dead mans shoes to fill any top job. The jobs in many factorys move across the E.U. by market forces on a whim of the board , no job is safe the terms and conditions are basic only your lucky to have any sick pay in most jobs " strike and your factory job goes to poland if possible? The law /justice is not on the side of the workers anymore.
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7th March 2013, 11:37 AM
#39
Louis there is only one answer to these problems that is supply and demand that has and never will change if someone gave you say 2 million pounds to be spent o creating jobs today wot would or could u do to create a situation that would create jobs and make a profit and pay your taxes and still keep your initial 2 million intact in the long term im sure some clever union man would be 1st at the door followed quickly by health and safety and the vat man and tax man before u opened the door lets not forget the insurance the rates the machinery etc before you start perhaps rocky would tell me how to do it or some other people who seem to have all the answers I await a flood of replys on how to make money regards cappy from shields retired merchant seaman Bradford mill worker cloth salesman sales director factory owner retired father grandfather husband and old xxxxxxxxx
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7th March 2013, 12:17 PM
#40
If you could????
Cappy,I would start a Pay Day Loan company with it and double my money in pretty quick time easy peasy.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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