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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHN PRUDEN View Post
    Brian my doctors are very good every 6 weeks blood tests stroke clinic the physio had to stop due to the spinal tumor and splinters in the spinal canal but apart from that i still hope to be taking the urine out of members for a long time to comejp
    Allways remember on thing, every morning one throws their legs over the side of the bed and can stand up on their feet its a bonus.Give them hell lads to the bitter end. Happy New Year. bill bland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHN PRUDEN View Post
    its been going on for years terminal cancer patients and dia morphine there is a spring loaded tube on a drip for many its a blessing when my father in law was dieing i asked the doctor to load the needle and i would give it to him. if you seen a dog that way you would have put him down he denide my request.jp
    Quite right John but then you get people like Harold Shipman bumping people off which was murder, so what do we call medics who deny food and water to people who are ill ? Nobody in my eyes has the right not to treat a person to the end,withdrawing food and water from an ill patient is wrong the patient will eventually decide that they cannot eat or drink anymore.
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    My late Wife was taken into the West Cumberland Hospital in Whitehaven just over 8 years ago, supposedly to have her medication sorted out, as she was on all sorts of drugs etc for lung cancer. This was with the local mcmillan nurses approval, she was not given any treatment for a week, and then transferred into a single room, where she had seen 2 men go into, and being taken out in a covered stretcher, she was told she had to go in there, despite saying if you go in there you die. The local Padre called it later "the dying room", When my youngest Son asked how is Mother was doing he was told "she did come in to die, better get used to it", I only found this out much later,so much for the care we were assured would be first class, as all the Nurses had been chosen specially! within a few days, they managed to overdose her, put her on a morphine pump despite her not wanting it,she then had a stroke, and died soon afterwards. If this isn't euthanasia, I wonder what is.She was 64 then, andhad not long been retired after managing sheltered accomodation for 12 years. Needless to say, I do not support Mcmillan any more, (she used to raise £hundreds with the yearly coffee mornings), But the same Hospital saved me 4 years ago, and also did the double camera jobbie in November on me,so I have not complained at all, although I am tempted at times!Sorry about the rambling, but it was either this or argue with the Parrot, again! Happy New Year to all, Ron

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    no jim it's very wrong to starve people to death i know the way my own mother died in a hospital they made one all mighty cock up she went in for the camera she was denied food then the camera was put back for a few days she was just fed a laxative 10 days later she had the camera and never came out of the anesthetic because she was to weak and the real kick in the stones the camera gave the all clear she did not need it in the first place but what can you do a doctor always bury his mistakes.jp

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    My deepest sympathy to you people who have lost there loved ones it is hard to take
    without boasting i have seen a lot of people die during the war and in the pow camp but when it is someone you love it is a very hard pill to swallow

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    Happy New Year to all the Crew on the Merchant Navy Site,Tony and All His Crew For A Great Web Site.Tom Kirby Jim Brady Charlie Hannah,and Good Story Teller.Brian(Captain Kong)Take Care All You Great Crew.Ken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron kendall View Post
    "she did come in to die, better get used to it", I only found this out much later,so much for the care we were assured would be first class, as all the Nurses had been chosen specially! within a few days, they managed to overdose her, put her on a morphine pump despite her not wanting it,she then had a stroke, and died soon afterwards. If this isn't euthanasia, I wonder what is.She was 64 then, andhad not long been retired after managing sheltered accomodation for 12 years. Needless to say, I do not support Mcmillan any more,
    Ron, I know where you are coming from, when my wife went into McMillans aged 50, I didn't find them sympathetic at all. On one occasion when they didn't realise I was there, one remarked to the other 'I wish she would hurry up and go, we need the bed' next day I found all kinds of tubes sticking out of her, next day they got their bed. I have never supported them since hearing that remark, nor will I ever, so much for caring nursing. Cannot recall anyone I know who went into McMillans walking out again. I know I may be doing some of the nurses a dis-service but can only speak from personal experience and have learnt that I am not alone in my experience of their 'Care'

    Lifeboats get my money when there is some to spare, at least they try to save lives.

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    No one in this county should go hungry, benefits are paid to ensure that the receipents can survive.
    In todays paper a women has 10 kids, she can't wont work, her hubby hasn't worked for twenty years, they get £50,000 in benefits,of which £20,000 is in housing benefits.
    Her house isn't big enough, so she moans wants council to move her.
    And by the way the family has two cars and all the latest gadgets.
    Her and her husband would each have to earn between them £72,000 to maintain their lifestyle.
    THEY DON'T PAY TAX.
    A couple working with a family earning over £40,000 paying taxes are set to lose family allowance and increased taxes.
    Now can anyone argue that the system is perfect?
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    They should pay TAX on Benefits,
    I have to Pay Tax on my miserable Pension, a Pension I bought with my own money and they tax me on it.
    The guy next door, `****`, a ******, gets loads of money more than I do and all Tax Free. He has never worked since the day he arrived in this country and drives a new Mercedes, his wife has a Toyota.
    and when I asked him if I was going to get a Christmas Card off him he went mad. Tight git.
    Cheers
    Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Kong View Post
    They should pay TAX on Benefits,
    I have to Pay Tax on my miserable Pension, a Pension I bought with my own money and they tax me on it.
    The guy next door, `****`, a ******, gets loads of money more than I do and all Tax Free. He has never worked since the day he arrived in this country and drives a new Mercedes, his wife has a Toyota.
    and when I asked him if I was going to get a Christmas Card off him he went mad. Tight git.
    Cheers
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    Brian, couldn't agree more with you, I received my state pension a few months ago, and lo and behold I pay bloody tax on it, WHY?
    Yet people on benefits don't pay tax, WHY?
    Enter this country from abroad, we throw money at you, WHY?
    Leave this country to live abroad, and we pay meagre pensions to them, WHY?
    Vic

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