Irritating Expression

[John Arton]

This expression seems to have crepted into telephone convesations recently when the caller is describing something to you or explaining something and ends with "do you see".
Of course i dont see you bluddy fool, we are talking on the telephone which is connecting me to you by copper wire or micro waves, so how the feck can I see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rgds
JA

[happy daze john in oz]

people who refer to organisations or situations purely by initials when only a limited number of other people know what they are talking about are really annoying and probably ill mannered
john sutton

j.w.k.o.p.a.y.t.a.?

[John Pruden]

with the greatest respect to all members the same thing is happening on this site some engineering terms mean nothing to the deck crowd or catering staff not that we are thick but one mans abbreviations is another's Klingon we like to point are views but if the honorable gentlemen could put words instead of just letters it would be a great help{i have got my H.H hard hat on} but spare a thought for us? thanks peoplejp

[Tony Morcom]

with the greatest respect to all members the same thing is happening on this site some engineering terms mean nothing to the deck crowd or catering staff not that we are thick but one mans abbreviations is another's Klingon we like to point are views but if the honourable gentlemen could put words instead of just letters it would be a great help{i have got my H.H hard hat on} but spare a thought for us? thanks peoplejp

Well put John. I agree there are far too many instances of abbreviations creeping in of late which actually spoil the interest of others. We should all remember that we have members ranging from Deck Boy to Master, from Fireman to Chief Engineer and Galley Boy to Chief Steward. Ages range from 40 to mid 90s and ship experience ranges from Fishing Boats to ULCCs (Ultra Large Crude carriers). We are all members because we have a genuine interest in the sea and enjoy the experiences and knowledge of others. To read a post that contains abbreviations that are not understood or even recognised just ends up spoiling the interest in what that person has to say.

[Gulliver]

Well put John. I agree there are far too many instances of abbreviations creeping in of late which actually spoil the interest of others. We should all remember that we have members ranging from Deck Boy to Master, from Fireman to Chief Engineer and Galley Boy to Chief Steward. Ages range from 40 to mid 90s and ship experience ranges from Fishing Boats to ULCCs (Ultra Large Crude carriers). We are all members because we have a genuine interest in the sea and enjoy the experiences and knowledge of others. To read a post that contains abbreviations that are not understood or even recognised just ends up spoiling the interest in what that person has to say.

I see once again that abbreviations are creeping into certain posts ,usually by the same people,who think they are trying to sound superior,when in actual fact they are showing their ignorance and their disdain for their fellow members.
One of the members posts often sounds like an abbreviated/coded telex memo from the Old Man to the Super concerning forthcoming drydock repairs ! Blah Blah!.gif

Gulliver

[Captain Kong]

I think the only one I have used is , VLCC, I just thought everyone knew what a VLCC was, they have been around since the 60s. Before that they were Super Tankers, then as they got to 250,000 tons in the 1960s they became VLCCs,
Very Large Crude Carriers. So the intitials have been around for near 50 years.
That is why I presumed everyone who is or was a Seafarer would know that after near 50 years. Half a Century.
I have not said or mentioned ULCCs, now they came out in the 1970s, Ultra Large Crude Carriers. 400,000 to 600,000 tons, So again one would presume that after 40 years people would know what they were
Cheers

Brian

[Jim Brady]

People who refer to organisations or situations purely by initials when only a limited number of other people know what they are talking about are really annoying and probably ill mannered
john sutton

What is most annoying is when they use the acronym then give the full title of what it stands for as though to say that is for those of you that would'nt have a clue what the acronym stands for.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Don Rafferty]

Jim, I believe that is the preferred way of doing it.

[John Albert Evans]

Well chaps I must admit that until today I never knew what VLCC and ULCC meant and was too shy to ask.() I left the sea in 1963.

John

[Capt Bill Davies]

John,

You should have sung out as I use these terms without explanation on a nautical website. You now have VLOCs (Very Large Ore Carriers) and ULOCs (Ultra Large Ore Carriers). ULCCs have been around since 1968 when the Universe Ireland was launched. The first Master of that ship was Frank Hornby, a rather large stereotypical American who was a retired Admiral USN. He joined NBC in the late 50s. I understudied Frank in late 1970 when I joined in CapeTown en route Whiddy Island. Thereafter I was on my own.

Brgds

Bill