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13th April 2018, 07:04 AM
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Man overboard
You may get to see this on your news tonight.
The Pacific Dawn, P&O cruise ship sailed from Brisbane on a 10 day cruise to the South Pacific islands.
I did one cruise on her back in 2009, a rust bucket then and P&O had considered selling her, but no, instead a 19 mil refurb.
A few days out of Brisbane with fin e weather and calm seas a female goes over the side.
Seen to do so by a crew member who threw a life buoy over the side but to no effect.
The ship did a turn around for the obligatory two hours but no sign of her.
Other ships in the area asked to keep an eye open.
But as she, according to the crew member, went straight over and down the side, not out in the open, there is little hope of finding her.
No doubt swept along the ships side and taken by the ships wake under to the props.
This sea is full of sharks so the chance of survival is zero.
How she went over is not sure, the average ships rail on this ship is about 1.4 meters high so it would require you to climb over as even if the ship rolled there is little chance of falling over.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
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13th April 2018, 07:19 AM
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Re: Man overboard
A sad tragedy to say the least John
But one does at times wonder how these things happen and why!
There is always the possibility that the poor Lady concerned may have had some personal things going on in her life and she just decided to go over the side,as I am sure she would have known it would be a quick end.
I say this as you state and I know that the ships railing are quite high enough for safety reasons,so as mentioned she must have climbed up and jumped!
Only other thing is of course the fact there could have been foul play????
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13th April 2018, 12:41 PM
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From comments made by a couple of crew members she jumped.
A lady with two young children with her on board.
Apparently she was about 40 foot above the water line when she went over, yes it had to be a deliberate jump from that height.


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13th April 2018, 10:42 PM
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Apparently, the ship’s owner P & O on Friday urged caution around versions of events, saying so far the cause of the tragedy had not been verified.
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13th April 2018, 10:59 PM
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Re: Man overboard

Originally Posted by
Doc Vernon
A sad tragedy to say the least John
But one does at times wonder how these things happen and why!
There is always the possibility that the poor Lady concerned may have had some personal things going on in her life and she just decided to go over the side,as I am sure she would have known it would be a quick end.
I say this as you state and I know that the ships railing are quite high enough for safety reasons,so as mentioned she must have climbed up and jumped!
Only other thing is of course the fact there could have been foul play????
Cheers
Pictured: The moment passenger went overboard on cruise ship and disappeared beneath the waves as search and rescue mission fails to find her
A picture seems to show the woman just moments before she was swallowed up
The female passenger, 47, had fallen overboard from ship while on a P&O cruise
Local reports say she has 'no chance of survival' and the search was abandoned
Pictured: The moment passenger went overboard on cruise ship and disappeared beneath the waves | Daily Mail Online
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14th April 2018, 12:38 AM
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Re: Man overboard
Reading the paper about it this morning, it states she was sick and spewing over the side when she fell overboard.
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14th April 2018, 01:01 AM
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Charlie without wanting to appear flippant about the tragedy of someone over the wall, and just have given a spiel on the international code of signals. The normal procedure during the search operations would be to fly the O flag meaning man overboard. The word man in this case being a woman. How long do you reckon it will be before this word will be changed to person when some equality for women group notice the wording. The leading light on this I wouldn’t mind betting will be the media. Cheers JWS.
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14th April 2018, 01:08 AM
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Hi John.
My wife and I saw that picture on TV of the lifebelt and both thought that was the woman close to it, falling that height would have knocked her unconscious anyway.
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14th April 2018, 04:21 AM
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I just renewed my sea survival here in the USA, (well, redid it as they wont accept training from outside of the US).
The quality of realism was awful compared with previous UK ones, however the instructor an ex navy guy said that people being drawn into the props was an old wives tail. The reason for putting the helm over to the side of the MOB is to kept them insight. His argument that by the time the helm was over and the stern swinging away it would be too late.
He wasn't the sort that you cold really argue a point with! 
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14th April 2018, 04:41 AM
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#9.. Shaun did he not also incorporate putting the helm over into the start of the Williamson turn. I agree with the old wife’s tale, however that does not mean to say I would be willing to put it to the test personally. If you have done the HUET certificate also this forming of survivors in the water forming a circle like a witches coven supposedly to keep sharks away , would certainly not like to put that to the test either. Have noticed that sharks have no fear of tearing whales to pieces. Cheers JWS.
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