Crew sizes

[Neville Roberts]

I did the maiden voyage on the Oriana , and had over 1200 crew and 2200 passengers, even the ships of today have more passengers but I think they have much less crew.

[happy daze john in oz]

Neville a ruise ship today with capacity for 2,000 bloods would only have a crew of about 450. How times have changed.

[jimmys]

Hi all,

The dual certification is allowed in STCW ninety something, I cant remember the date. It is the Safety training and certification of the watch-keepers.
In the HND course which was followed at Glasgow for both Bridge and Engine a lot of the subjects were common. Mathematics, Physics, Naval architecture, some partially common, electrics and electronics and, radio,radar. It left specific subjects such as Maintenance engineering, navigation, ship handling, Coll Regs,
bridge and engine room watch keeping not common. This left the dual apprentice with some remedial subjects but a long way from all of them. A mix of sea time was necessary and I think the extra was three months but I am not sure now.
The main policy of the GovUK at the time was that if a ship needed a second mate and a third engineer one man could not replace the two. What was allowed was if the 3/e signed off the dual qualified 2/o could replace him but a new qualified 2/o was required or vice verso. This put the plans of the shipping companies up the spout. The main thrust was off course to replace two men with one.
I am now retired and I cant say if this is still so.

Its a fallacy that there is a great difference between both departments!!! When both Departments were in the early months severe remedial work was required due to lack of Secondary Education. Nobody will admit to having it in later years in the industry. Oh how they forget.

regards
jimmy

[Doc Vernon]

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[robpage]

If I remember correctly , I think BP did some experiments with this in the early 1970's , and I don't think it was very successful . But I expect some of the old BP guys may remember it better than I can