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17th March 2010, 03:10 PM
#31
neville
I remember going too Charlotte Amali in St Thomas and it hasen,t changed in 50 years it still looked the same as when we were doing the cruises out of New York in the 60,s a new destination was the cayman islands , were I found an old girl friend of mine from liverpool married too a rich islander politico, small world eh.,she said that she got the urge too travel from me telling her tales of far away places, so she became a air hostess for about 15 years or so
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16th December 2010, 05:22 PM
#32
HJere is a report of a cruise vessel in `bad weather` off Egypt.
The Captain forgot that at slow speed the Stabilizers did not work.
Video: Royal Caribbean's Captain Wright Talks Brilliance
(Updated 10 a.m. EST) -- The nearly 2,060 Brilliance of the Seas passengers who endured a horrifying early morning in the Mediterranean won't be paying a dime for the experience.
"The captain announced a full refund for all guests as a result of the 'unfortunate incident' of two days ago," posted Cruise Critic member Lifelong Cruiser on Monday. Royal Caribbean spokeswoman Cynthia Martinez confirmed the statement, and an official release from the line acknowledged that passengers and crew had been through a "frightening experience."
The line had initially doled out $200 in onboard credit ($400 for those in suites) -- a level of compensation that had angered many and resulted in "at least one guest letter circulating that criticized the 'nominal' amount," noted Lifelong Cruiser.
On Sunday morning, Brilliance ran into rough weather en route to Alexandria, Egypt. In the early a.m. hours, large waves and heavy winds caused the ship to list several times, injuring about 60 passengers, sending beds sliding across cabins, shattering glass elevators and leaving the dining room and other public areas strewn with damaged furniture. According to a Royal Caribbean statement, aesthetic damage to the ship's interior has caused the closure of three public venues -- the beauty salon, video arcade and disco -- for the remainder of the sailing. The statement also noted that the most serious of the injuries were fractures suffered by two passengers.
Despite the dangerous lists, Royal Caribbean said that there has been no impact to Brilliance's operating systems or engines, and it continues to be fully seaworthy. The ship arrived in its next port of call, Malta, at roughly 7 a.m. local time on Tuesday. It will overnight in Malta and then head for Barcelona, Spain, where it will conclude the voyage on Friday as originally scheduled.
According to the line, repairs are underway, and subsequent cruises will not be impacted. The next cruise is set to depart on December 17.
Cruise Critic members on the ill-fated voyage have been chronicling the ordeal on the message boards.
"Bed surfing, what an experience," posted Cruise Critic member sochie. Member Lifelong Cruiser was also in his cabin when the ship listed. "The closet door in our balcony cabin ripped from its hinges and flew across the room," he wrote. "The king bed slid across the cabin as if on wheels ... The bed ended up perpendicular to where it started ... My wife narrowly missed being hit by the airborne closet door, which weighs 50+ pounds."
"[The] Gym is in shambles -- ellipticals looked like monkey bars; spin bikes everywhere," wrote dirtgirl after surveying the scene on Sunday.
Member jimbo5544, whose son and daughter-in-law are celebrating their honeymoon onboard, posted additional details. "They said all computers had smashed in Internet cafe and Grand piano smashed into wall. Much broken glass all over ship."
Others are wondering how such a harrowing event could have taken place. "The captain admitted in his first address within 30 minutes of the incident that a 'mistake' had been made by slowing down in harbor traffic, causing the stabilizers to disengage," posted Lifelong Cruiser. "[He] described the incident as a 'mistake' more than once."
"The speed for that part of the voyage is a slow-speed leg," said Martinez, when asked about the captain's comments. "When the ship encountered the severe weather, it caused the ship to slow down even more. As you may know, the stabilizers are not engaged at slow speeds."
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16th December 2010, 08:11 PM
#33
Cruise ship
I would not have thought that in harbor traffic any vessel would have stabilisers engaged. Off course you never know with passenger ships?
Seems a lack of stability rather than a stabiliser problem.
regards
jimmy
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17th December 2010, 04:18 AM
#34
Sailed on a number of liners with stabalisers but only recall them being used deep sea and no where near the coast or a port. In really bad weather they often have been pulled in.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller

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18th December 2010, 12:00 AM
#35
I am amazed that stabilisers were used in Harbour traffic and at low speed they are worse than useless
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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14th May 2011, 08:04 PM
#36
Hi John, great post. I did the QM2 couple of years ago and they did allow us our own wine, also on the Holland American Alaska cruise. Pete Smith
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