Deliberate Pollution

[James Curry]

Just listening to the news this morning about the amount of times the water companies here in the UK get fined for deliberately pumping raw untreated sewage into rivers.

Official figures show that in England last year there were 875 such discharges took place. does not sound a lot until you read that is 875 times a day.

Moves are afoot to stop CEO's getting bonuses in excess of a £million a year.

Thing is they know it is cheaper to pay the fine than invest in more preventive measures.

Last week there was an article about pollution in the Lake district. Literally tons of raw untreated sewage being pumped into the likes of Lake Windermere.
When United Utilities(responsible for the pollution) were asked why this happens. Answer was during the summer months the population of the Lake district goes into the millions and the poputaion returns to the Hundreds of thousands.

So what they said was the system is not built to handle the influx of tourists hence the need to discharge untreated sewage into the lakes.

Well if they know that the system is not up to the job why not invest and improve the system.

When the water industry was in public hands, it was claimed to work neither for its owner – the state – nor the public. Since being privatised in 1989, water companies have enriched investors and senior executives but failed to adequately invest in infrastructure. Shareholders have been paid £72bn in dividends. The cash came from big debts, with companies borrowing £56bn, and big bills, with prices rising 40%. Private-sector efficiency did not provide better service, but it did allow companies to be milked for cash.

Now I wonder what would happen to a ships Master & Company if theydeliberately and knowingly pumped oil and waste into the oceans!!!

I think we all know the answer to that one.

[vic mcclymont]

For the past few weeks, apart from the odd day UK power generation by wind and solar have struggled.
Today both wind and solar are generating less than 6.5gw of electrical power.
We read that renewable are powering the country, what a load of nonsense.
No doubt, James, everyone connected (no pun intended) with the planting are patting each other on the back, it takes these sapling sixty years to recapture the co2, of the felled trees.
Renewable are big con, unreliable and dependent on the vargries of the weather.

[James Curry]

Vic, so is the reliance on foreign Oil & Gas imports. We need to protect Peat bogs as they capture more carbon than trees. Also it depends on what trees that are being planted. The likes of Douglas Fir become commercial to harvest with in 10 years.
Problem with Fir trees is that nothing will grow under a Fir tree the falling needles reduce any undergrowth coming through. Also they are not favoured by nesting birds
Bit of a sweeping statement to say renewables are a big con. Like it or not they are needed.
I do not know what your views are regarding climate change and global warning. I believe the planet is warming up and climate change is happening. I am sure plenty will disagree.
I would agree that EV's are a con job.

[happy daze john in oz]

Funny thing that about the 'Fir' trees.
Go to the Baltic regions, they are all there, all over.

Again you take media notes on what is said to be occurring!!


Here in Oz wed are told by the all knowing, know very little gov, that we are getting 20% of our power from renewables.

But according to the power companies it is closer to 13%, and that includes all from roof top solar such as I have.

[Marian Gray]

So what they said was the system is not built to handle the influx of tourists

As is your want you cherry pick through a copy and paste article, this time from The Guardian of Aug 2022.

Victoria Gill & Esme Stallard & Rob England from the BBC 2022 quote 825 discharges per day so which is it?

Why don't you take all your political concerns and address them to your local MP instead.

[vic mcclymont]

James, I used travel regularly to Scotland, the M74 is surrounded on both sides by these monsters. I would say that on about 90% of my travels the windmills weren't operating even though it was windy.
Most of the summer our (UK) power generating from sustainable sources has been sadly lacking.
Vic

[James Curry]

Well Vic,we have differing views on renewables & perhaps climate change.

According to the Office for National Statistics, in 2020, the UK generated 75,610 gigawatt hours (GWh) of electricity from both offshore and onshore wind farms.
I was looking out at the Burbo Bank wind farm (Liverpool Bay) yesterday and the turbines were turning in what was no more than a breeze.

The thing is why are these wind farms owned by Dong Energy (Danish) the Danish Government owns 50.1% of Dong energy.

[vic mcclymont]

James, UK has a total of 28.5 generating capacity from wind turbines.
On Sunday it was approx 5.gw, on Monady 2.5 gw, today Tuesday, less than 10gw, hardly a source of reliable source of power.
When the blades are turning slowly, it be the diesel donkey engine turning the blades.
Vic

[John Cassels]

Just listening to the news this morning about the amount of times the water companies here in the UK get fined for deliberately pumping raw untreated sewage into rivers.

Official figures show that in England last year there were 875 such discharges took place. does not sound a lot until you read that is 875 times a day.

Moves are afoot to stop CEO's getting bonuses in excess of a £million a year.

Thing is they know it is cheaper to pay the fine than invest in more preventive measures.

Last week there was an article about pollution in the Lake district. Literally tons of raw untreated sewage being pumped into the likes of Lake Windermere.
When United Utilities(responsible for the pollution) were asked why this happens. Answer was during the summer months the population of the Lake district goes into the millions and the poputaion returns to the Hundreds of thousands.

So what they said was the system is not built to handle the influx of tourists hence the need to discharge untreated sewage into the lakes.

Well if they know that the system is not up to the job why not invest and improve the system.

When the water industry was in public hands, it was claimed to work neither for its owner – the state – nor the public. Since being privatised in 1989, water companies have enriched investors and senior executives but failed to adequately invest in infrastructure. Shareholders have been paid £72bn in dividends. The cash came from big debts, with companies borrowing £56bn, and big bills, with prices rising 40%. Private-sector efficiency did not provide better service, but it did allow companies to be milked for cash.

Now I wonder what would happen to a ships Master & Company if theydeliberately and knowingly pumped oil and waste into the oceans!!!

I think we all know the answer to that one.

Only if you get caught !.

[Tony Taylor]

James, UK has a total of 28.5 generating capacity from wind turbines.
On Sunday it was approx 5.gw, on Monady 2.5 gw, today Tuesday, less than 10gw, hardly a source of reliable source of power.
When the blades are turning slowly, it be the diesel donkey engine turning the blades.
Vic

Dogger bank wind farm started generating yesterday for first time; it is far from complete having approximately another 5 years to go before completion; the Equinor control centre for the Dogger Bank is in South Shields and has been there for at least a year, sited in what used to be Redheads shipyard (then subsequently McNulty Offshore).
Another large windfarm is on the cards for offshore Berwick on Tweed.