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    Default Death of Ogilvie/John Will Cagliari 1854

    Hello there, i'm pleased to have found this site.

    Does anyone if there is a register of Merchant Navy deaths abroad for mid 19C?

    My ancestor Ogilvie aka "John" Will died at Cagliari, Sardinia on 22/10/1854, whilst on board the "Rose" a ship registered at Sunderland. He was a Master Mariner Cert. No. 54.326 born in Peterhead in 1817 and had been 23 years in the Merchant Service - Coasting and Foreign Trades.

    I sure would like to know the circumstances of his death.

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    Hi Pete, Welcome to the site, unfortunately cannot find hide nor hair of John not even a birth cert from Scotlands People [SP] or his ship! There are several Master Mariner Certs but none listing the same number. Is there a possibility he was born in the Dundee area or else where in the N.E. of Scotland? Do you know his parents names of if he was married etc. Sometimes it's possible to locate someone that way. Any wee snippet you can think of would help.

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    Hi Peter, & Mariam. Have just had a quick search before shutting down. Crews Lists Index Project. James Will born Peterhead 1815. Mates certificate # 68232 ticket #25370 London 14/5/51.
    Not sure how to check rest of it, but death recorded as drowning.

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    Many thanks Bill and here's me looking under Ogilvie!!!

    This document lists him as John Will from the ''Rose'' and cause of death looks like dysentery.



    You will have to try and enlarge please Doc, John Will is the 6th seaman down the list, left-hand side of page.

    Ship: https://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum
    Ship whose official number is 15490

    Name Port of registry and details/
    ROSE Malta, Sail /Source MNL, 1870
    Sunderland, 7/1853, Sail, 295 tons/ Appropriation Books, RSS
    Sunderland / MNL, 1857
    Sunderland, Sail, 293 tons / MNL, 1860
    Last edited by Doc Vernon; 16th July 2021 at 02:31 AM. Reason: Added text

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    Will . John
    Died at Sea 22 Oct 1854 on Ship ROSE. Home Port Sunderland UK

    Ref BT153 Box 0002 Page 12

    Date of Engagement 1/6/1854

    These are the same as on the Document that Marian has posted
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    Oops, Seaman John Will IS 7th down list! This document is available on Ancestry Pete.

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    Default Re: Death of Ogilvie/John Will Cagliari 1854

    You may very well find more detail in the ship's crew agreement which ought to be within this document: Port of Registry: Sunderland Ship's Name: RH-RZ | The National Archives
    It's not downloadable, so it means a personal visit (recommended) or pay someone or the staff at the archives to search and copy for you if they can find it.

    Dave W

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    Peter & Marian. Another quick search. ABERDEEN JOURNAL Wed. Nov. 1st 1854. deaths.
    Of cholera, on passage from ALEXANDRIA on 22nd Oct., and interred on the island of SARDINIA Mr Ogilvie Will mate of the barque Rose of SUNDERLAND, eldest son of Mr Charles Will, Washing House, PETERHEAD, aged 37 years.
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    Default Re: Death of Ogilvie/John Will Cagliari 1854

    Unfortunately censuses only started in Scotland on 1st January 1855. So they won't help either.

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    Default Re: Death of Ogilvie/John Will Cagliari 1854

    Hi Michael, Please see below. Whilst some of the earlier ones are rare to find the census in Scotland from 1841 is readily available.

    https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/a...land-s-census/

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