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16th September 2020, 06:48 AM
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How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-54154157
I’d like to know how this complies with Part B, Rule 5. This requires that "every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision”.
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16th September 2020, 07:07 AM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
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16th September 2020, 08:21 AM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
DJ I understand where you are coming from on this in regard to Coll-Regs. They AI computer experts probably think that they have every eventuality covered and the vessel is probably fitted with extra AI back up systems, but mother nature probably doesn't understand them, so only time will tell. There will be situations in mid ocean that the computer experts have not considered or covered. Alas it is the way of the world and 'progress' for want of a better word and the collision regulations will be updated to cover non-manned vessels, the same as the Highway Code has been amended to cover driverless cars, all these rules and regulations will be written with well intent and again mother nature will not understand them. There is no substitute for the human eye or brain on site in the ocean. Even AI backup systems fail as many USNavy ships have found out in recent years, also naval vessels, of all nations, have a habit of switching off their AIS transmitting systems as stealth is their comrade, again USNavy ships have been found guilty of this. Alas unmanned vessels will be the future and calculated vessel losses will be factored into the commercial risks.
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16th September 2020, 11:38 AM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
We where told 10 years ago that there would be trains without guards, There are a few on single track working Metro trains, But main line trains still have guards and always will, As Ivan says its only when this goes pear shaped will they have a change of heart because you can bet your bottom dollar it will Terry.:mymy.
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16th September 2020, 12:20 PM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
Had not realised you were talking of the Mayflower Autonomous Ship (MAS) named after the famous 1620 Mayflower to invoke the pioneering spirit of famous Plymouth to Plymouth, transatlantic voyage.
Back in 2016, ProMare Co-Founder Brett Phaneuf attended a meeting to discuss how to recognize the 400th anniversary of the 1620 Mayflower voyage.
A submarine builder by trade and an expert in robotics and underwater systems, Phaneuf didn't support building another replica. Instead he suggested doing something bold, courageous and new: building a Mayflower for the 21st century.
Keith.
ADDED: The Mayflower Autonomous Ship will attempt to recreate the original voyage of the Mayflower across the Atlantic Ocean 400 years ago. Trials will begin within the next few weeks, before the historic journey which is planned for April 2021.
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Last edited by Keith at Tregenna; 16th September 2020 at 12:30 PM.
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16th September 2020, 05:05 PM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
In my view, you can have the cleverest AI available, but there is no substitute for a Mk1 Eyeball......
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16th September 2020, 05:18 PM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
Much more to come:
Apart from the Mayflower Autonomous Ship that will attempt to recreate the original voyage of the Mayflower across the Atlantic Ocean 400 years ago. Trials will begin within the next few weeks, before the historic journey which is planned for April 2021.
Some of more:
Sea-Kit International Ltd’s remotely-operated uncrewed surface vessel (USV) ‘Maxlimer’ recently mapped over 1000 sq. km of ocean floor on a 22-day Atlantic mission around Europe’s continental shelf.
Ocean Infinity's Armada will see a number of vessels built which will offer crewed and uncrewed capabilities. Builds of 21m and 36m vessels are underway, as well as the development of a 70m vessel.
L3 Harris are using their remotely operated vessels in UK waters for range of functions, while XOCEANSOCIAL continue operations with their fleet of vessels in UK waters and overseas, completing over 10,000 hours of unmanned bathymetric survey off the UK coast over the last two years.
Supporting the ships of the future
September 16, 2020.
https://maritimecoastguard.blogspot....famvU-SWpYYNsE
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16th September 2020, 06:49 PM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?

Originally Posted by
Red Lead Ted
We where told 10 years ago that there would be trains without guards, There are a few on single track working Metro trains, But main line trains still have guards and always will, As Ivan says its only when this goes pear shaped will they have a change of heart because you can bet your bottom dollar it will Terry.:mymy.
Hi Terry, the Docklands Light Railway system in London has no drivers, although there is a man in the carriages who operates the train doors.
it's a good experience and has been in service for over 30 years, as far as I know, without any accident, but could be wrong?.
The Tesla car can drive it's self but there has been accidents and some fatalities, personally I think it's a step too far to
think an AI operated vehicle could cope with all of what today's driving conditions are, and we now have a lot of drug users
on the roads, and tearaways who have no regard for the Highway Code "The What???" I was driving for 55 years, and
and I don't think I could trust an AI controlled car, the last Tesla accident showed that the owner was sitting back
watching a DVD ???, No Way, I was once told, "Treat every other driver as an idiot" No Problemo with that
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Last edited by John F Collier; 16th September 2020 at 07:15 PM.
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17th September 2020, 06:21 AM
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Re: How Does This Comply With COLREGS?
Driverless trains have been with us for many ears now.
In NZ and Western Oz there ate many goods trains that work that way.
I was told that in Japan and Singapore some of the passenger trains are also driverless, and some London Underground are.
Was on one that went out to Canary Warf and that had no driver.
But as to driverless cars, no way man.
Unless all the cars are driverless there will always be problems.


Happy daze John in Oz.
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