Titanic

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as I have said before Terry it sells books . Some things are beyond belief like I do believe that the late Princess of Wales was in a car that crashed rather than one that was run off the road by MI6 , I also believe that the actual astronauts landed on the moon , I'm sure that it was radar tracked by the Soviet Union at the time , a lot of money making schemes was headed by the early church such as Fragments of the real Cross the Holy Grail drops of Jesus Christ blood funny enough they were always found by churches that needed pilgrims . Anyway can't sit here riding this all day I'm going for a pint with Elvis

[Red Lead Ted]

Author ‘Predicts’ Titanic Sinking, 14 Years Earlier,

Here is an ex seaman author who done quite well out of the Titanic, Must have been the only guy to celebrate the Titanic gong down

Author ‘Predicts’ Titanic Sinking, 14 Years Earlier


Author 'Predicts' Titanic Sinking 14 Years Earlier | TIME.com

[Keith at Tregenna]

Hope this helps ?

British merchant vessels normally fly the Red Ensign. However, as the captain and at least 12 crew were members of the Royal Naval Reserve (RNR), a special warrant was issued to fly the Blue Ensign.

RMS Titanic - Conservapedia

I would have thought if a special warrant was issued to fly the Blue Ensign, there would be a record somewhere ?

K.

[Fouro]

Keith,
Have a read of post # 45 as I think it contains the answer you seek.

Fouro.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Thanks Fouro, had missed that.

Warrant number 690, which allowed him the opportunity to fly the Blue Ensign on any of his commanded vessels.

Keith.

[j.sabourn]

#64... That’s the riddle solved then Fouro. Somewhere amongst that load of discussions about the man he was a member or part time member of the RN. So the blue ensign is explained. Thank you. It should also be noted that some may have even sailed with some of these dressed up masters of passenger vessels that some did not even possess a certificate of competency. If they reached a commissioned rank in certain departments they were issued with a certificate of service as master or chief engineer. The rightness or wrongness of this will also vary. Depending on trade of vessel I have seen ok in some instances, but in others not so. Myself I feel after spending over 10 years seatime learning the vagaries of care and carriage of various cargoes, someone coming from a warship background is not fully aware of what goes on. To just show how old time Maritime law affected the British Merchant Service anyone coming out of the RN with a cert. of Service as master of a FG Steamship was allowed to go on any such ship in that rank, Except a Home Trade Passenger vessel. Why that should be has always been an enigma to me. Perhaps someone else may be able to explain. Especially when seatime for certificates of competency had to be on a trading vessel. JWS.

[happy daze john in oz]

Any one who has sailed on the maiden voyage of any ship knows the condition of it.
Pristine and shining, brass all good and no sign of rust or any damage.

Had the two been swapped there would have been such and I am sure, as is RLT who has researched this for years, have noticed.
At least one survivor would have made comment on it.

[Ivan Cloherty]

#64... That’s the riddle solved then Fouro. Somewhere amongst that load of discussions about the man he was a member or part time member of the RN. So the blue ensign is explained. Thank you. It should also be noted that some may have even sailed with some of these dressed up masters of passenger vessels that some did not even possess a certificate of competency. If they reached a commissioned rank in certain departments they were issued with a certificate of service as master or chief engineer. . JWS.

I sailed with an ex RN who was given MFG, he had served on submarines! thankfully he never shouted Dive! Dive! Dive!

[j.sabourn]

#68.. I did as well Ivan Who told me when found out iabout HT passenger vessels went up for masters and passed. He said he wished he hadn’t as said he found it very hard and found out later if he failed he would also have lost his cert. of service, However it had to be a much reduced syllabus as how could you get 3 certificates in 1. He. Was. Lt.Commander and knew he would never reach gold braid on his cap. Believe he got a black eye when trying To tell a couple of ABs how to put s splice in a wire on a supply ship. However he had the gift of the gab and went on to better things in shipping. Proving the adage it’s not. What you know but. Who!! He also had been jimmy the one on subs. But didn’t make the grade for Navy standards. A chief engineer on the other hand who started his naval career as a stoker and came out as Lieutenant also sailed with me as ch. engineer, whilst Icant speak for his engineering knowledge, as a shipmate he proved to be one of the best, didn’t speak with a plum in his mouth either . Both lived in the area of Robs Portsmouth and I was on different ships with both, and were as different as chalk and cheese socially. JWS

[John Arton]

I sailed with an ex submariner who had been given a o.o.w. engineering cert.
His job on the submarine, in charge of the deck gun!!!, Special requirements, ability to hold your breath for long periods of time, LOL.
The last sentence was my joke, he really was the gunnery officer on board and a good guy to sail with.
Rgds.
J.A.