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    Fire! Fire! Fire Down Below.

    76 Comments by Peter Copley Published on 12th January 2021 12:35 PM
    An unwanted fire anywhere is a bad thing – An unwanted fire at sea is downright dangerous. A fire safety poster I once saw on one of my ships said; ‘Remember! At Sea, You Cannot Call for the Fire Brigade.’
    I took part in numerous lifeboat and fire drills on British ships. My role in the drills was pretty basic; put stuff away or roll up the fire hose after the drill, etc. However, fire drills on the ‘Flag of Convenience’ ships I sailed on as a radio officer, were few and far between. Let’s face it, fires don’t start on these ships, do they? Or maybe they do.
    Another fire prevention poster I saw in the Mann Island Shipping Federation Offices, Liverpool read;
    ‘Bright Sparks really rather dumb, smoking near an oily drum. Doesn’t he know the oil is tinder? Soon he’ll be a ruddy cinder.’
    The poster showed a caricature picture of a sailor smoking a cigarette near an oil drum. Well, whether it was someone smoking near some oily rags or spontaneous ignition of oily rags in a bin, I don’t know, but a fire started in the engine room of my ship the SS Sapho 1 as we were halfway across the Atlantic. The smoke from the fire was enough to send the engineer and his oiler, coughing and spluttering, from the engine room. The smoke pouring out of the lantern light sent the South American and African sailors into a frenzy, rushing to the lifeboats, wanting to abandon ship. I myself had the MF transmitter warmed up, ready to send out an SOS if need be, had the fire got out of control. This wasn’t necessary, the Greek chief engineer organised a fire-fighting party and they dealt with the blaze. Luckily it was confined to a pile of rags in a storeroom. Although only a relatively minor incident, I really did admire the engineers, wearing nothing more protective than asbestos overalls and a smoke-hood, climbing down into the engine room dragging the fire hose with them. I thought at the time, climbing down through smoke and heat must be like climbing down a ladder into hell. A friendly flickering flame has a bad habit of spreading very quickly into a major conflagration. With flashovers and backdrafts, fire can, and often does, spread faster than a man can run.
    Some years later I left the sea and at the age of 28, I joined the fire brigade. In the nearly 29 years I was in the service, I attended 100s if not 1000s of fires. Fires ranging from a garden hut on fire to a six-storey mill blazing from end to end and bottom to top requiring 20 pumps and 3 turntable ladders to deal with it. From the rank of fireman (Firefighter for the PC brigade) to Station Commander I attended fires in canal boats, cars, hotels, houses, flats, schools, offices, factories, shops, woods, and on the moors. One fire, in particular, reminded me of the fire in the engine room of the SS Sapho 1. It was a fire in a sub-sub-basement of a Bradford city-center office block. My team and I had the latest fire kit, gloves, anti-flash hoods, deep penetration breathing apparatus sets, thermal imaging cameras, and high-pressure hose-reels. I staggered out of the building, totally exhausted, I just rolled over in the gutter, too tired even to take off my face mask. It was then I remembered the two engineers at sea, wearing their old asbestos Fearnaught suits, wearing a cumbersome smoke-hood, air fed by a pair of bellows manufactured in Germany in 1937, climbing down through the heat and smoke to fight a fire deep in the engine room. My heart goes out to men at sea who have to fight a fire without the benefit of being able to call up 20 fire engines to help them.
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    aye and filled apropiately lol

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    The AB on the forrard falls let go of his fall before the after fall was released ....the vessel an old hains boat was still at about 6 or so knots .....the forrard end of the lifeboat swung round and crashed into the ships side ....the AB was injuredin the forrard falls ...the clinker planking gave way ...the boat started to fill with water.......the sight of the man overboard was lostduring this performance ......as the vessel slowed the man on the after falls managed to get the forrard falls back on and that boat was lifted ....the other lifeboat was swung out and lowered by now the vessel had stopped and all hands were trying to spot the man overboard.....no site of him.....so the debacle went on .....cappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy View Post
    The AB on the forrard falls let go of his fall before the after fall was released ....the vessel an old hains boat was still at about 6 or so knots .....the forrard end of the lifeboat swung round and crashed into the ships side ....the AB was injuredin the forrard falls ...the clinker planking gave way ...the boat started to fill with water.......the sight of the man overboard was lostduring this performance ......as the vessel slowed the man on the after falls managed to get the forrard falls back on and that boat was lifted ....the other lifeboat was swung out and lowered by now the vessel had stopped and all hands were trying to spot the man overboard.....no site of him.....so the debacle went on .....cappy
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    Remember doing fire drill at the Vindi, crawling along a very low tunnel with smoke from wet grass in there.
    Had afew small lessons ashore at various establishments but nothing serious.

    Yes Lewis, no doubt there were some under the weather at times but there is a difference between being a little under it to being fully over the top, something I never ever saw on duty.
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    In none of my posts did I mention anyone being over the top. To many people do not actually read what is being said!! I am sure I am also guilty of that at times. A lot of saints and sinners went to sea me thinks. Old saying only two types of people go to sea Liars and wa--ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis McColl View Post
    In none of my posts did I mention anyone being over the top. To many people do not actually read what is being said!! I am sure I am also guilty of that at times. A lot of saints and sinners went to sea me thinks. Old saying only two types of people go to sea Liars and wa--ers.
    it should be the way round Lewis ha ha

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    #55 Lewis what were walkers doing at sea !!

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    My wife had a Walker, her uncle Leon Walker at sea. Chief Steward on the Canberra

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    #17 up until the 60s they were all dry ships I was on .The only official alcohol I ever saw was a tot of rum on a saturday night which the chief steward gave out with the bond being open. This was only if the master said it was ok. The bars came out to satisfy the moans and groans of those on board of the boredom of Long passages at sea and to try to retain people , however it had the opposite effect later as was used as an excuse to get rid of people when the industry was in surplus . The bars also went some way to curb cabin drinking when rationed beer was allowed on ships. Any drunk seamen I saw always did their drinking ashore and was only a minority amongst all the drunks already living ashore. The occasional alcoholic one did get at sea was few and far between but was rare to see him two trips running . JS
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    I joined the MN in September 1969 and stayed until 2013. I never sailed on any ship apart from Saudi flagged vessels that did not have a bar. Okay from 2003 onwards a lot of vessels started to go dry. It was I believe from 1986 that the D&A policy was being slowly implemented. Ships still had bars and Alcohol was still freely available, it all depended on who the master was and how skilful the individual that was running the bar could be by being economic with how he counted beers being consumed and by who. It was not unusual for shall we say the Filipino crew to be bribed to sell there beers to some of the pissheads who lived in the big house, another way was several cases of beer seemed to have been drank by shore side officials. There was always a way. But like everything there was always someone who would spoil it for everyone else. When I was duty engineer every third or fourth night I never drank. I did not notice that others would stick a beer down on my page and then tell me the next day they owed me a beer. It ended up in a row and I put a stop to it. The old man pulled me about drinking while duty engineer so I enlightened him in front of the guilty parties concerned. He believed me as I had been sailing with him for over 3 years as the top 6 always did back to back trips. Someone was foolish enough to ask what harm was it doing as I was not drinking on duty nights so why not use my page as the person was paying for those beers anyway. He just did not get it, why was I staying dry during my duty night. The oldman shut the bar for a week. Oh the moans and groans. There is always one.

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