The BUFFS

[James Curry]

Seeing as I mentioned the BUFFS in another post concerning a Cap badge. I got curious about the origins of the BUFF'S
Maybe those in the know could add to this thread.
I have found some differing articles concerning the origins of the Buff's. Perhaps I am confusing things for myself.
Are the Buff's the same organisation as this group?

Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes ?.

I have using Google found this , The Buff's were founded in 1572
The Buff's was one of the first infantary regiments in the British Army.

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/buffs-...-kent-regiment.
There have been several variations on badges and regailia down the years
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I was basing my post on the cap badge posted in the other thread.

Then we have this group are they one and the same?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_...r_of_Buffaloes

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Are the Royal Antediluivan order of Buffaloes in anyway attached to the Royal British Legion?
I have been in a couple of Buff's clubs around the world Vancouver, Nova Scotia and the UK.
Obviously I was an invited guest, to be honest through ignorance I thought it was more of a social drinking club.

[Harry Nicholson]

I thought it meant: To hold the line. But found this on the net re the East Kent regiment: On the parade ground in Malta . . . “The phrase ‘Steady the Buffs!’, popularised by Rudyard Kipling in his 1888 novel ‘Soldiers Three’, has its origins during 2nd Battalion’s garrison duties in Malta. Adjutant Cotter, not wanting to be shown up in front of his former regiment, the 21st Royal (North British) Fusiliers, spurred his men on with the words: Steady, the Buffs! The Fusiliers are watching you.’

[j.sabourn]

The antediluvian bit Harry means before the time of the biblical great flood or today old fashioned. But the newly joined member will more than likely be able to give if he desires the history that this pillar of society uses for any rituals they may have. JS

[James Curry]

I thought it meant: To hold the line. But found this on the net re the East Kent regiment: On the parade ground in Malta . . . “The phrase ‘Steady the Buffs!’, popularised by Rudyard Kipling in his 1888 novel ‘Soldiers Three’, has its origins during 2nd Battalion’s garrison duties in Malta. Adjutant Cotter, not wanting to be shown up in front of his former regiment, the 21st Royal (North British) Fusiliers, spurred his men on with the words: Steady, the Buffs! The Fusiliers are watching you.’

Thanks Harry in my post you may have already found this in the link

The Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment)
The Buffs was one of the first infantry regiments in the British Army. With origins dating back to 1572, it took part in many campaigns in the years that followed. In 1961, after nearly 400 years of distinguished service, the regiment became part of The Queen's Own Buffs, The Royal Kent Regiment.

[j.sabourn]

Ref. to #3. I have never heard of any ref. to Malta re the Order of the Buffaloes this however doesn’t mean there isn’t any. it is a hot pot for Masonic history and much of the past can be found there . E.G. The knights Templar are known as the Knights of St. John of Jerasusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta. JS

[happy daze john in oz]

In a pub I once owned in Strood Kent there was an upper room which looked at the time as not being opened for many a year.
Deep in dust I found a couple pf bits of regalia and reverence to a fund razzing event at the pub way back about the time of the Crimea war or there abouts.

Put it all in a glass case and displayed it in the pub.
But that was back in 1976, so who knows wherer it is now.

[j.sabourn]

What were the bits of Regalia John ? JS

[happy daze john in oz]

From memory, and this was back in 1975, a silver platter of sorts engraved.
A form of lanyard to go around the neck and a fair amount of unsold tickets Rasing monies for returned WW1 soldiers.
There were a few other bits which looked more like the collar a priest would wear when taking mass.