State pension

I answer to Vic #23.
Where do you get the figure of £26,000 from. Anyone can pluck a figure out of thin air to make their argument sound more plausible.
Stick to the facts. The bankers, sub prime mortgage lenders and City fat cats are still in their jobs, still drawing millions in salary and bonus payments while the rest of us are expected to pay for their greed. We are not all in this together, we did not bring this country to it's knees.
If you want to bandy around figures of people who are paid for doing nothing start at the top.

Hi shipmates, I dont trust anyone in government no matter what they say, they are out to make them-selfs richer NOT US.

#30... John the night hoods were good for keeping away the night mares, the things the nights used to ride. Cheers JS

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Originally Posted by Louis the fly

I answer to Vic #23.
Where do you get the figure of £26,000 from. Anyone can pluck a figure out of thin air to make their argument sound more plausible.
Stick to the facts. The bankers, sub prime mortgage lenders and City fat cats are still in their jobs, still drawing millions in salary and bonus payments while the rest of us are expected to pay for their greed. We are not all in this together, we did not bring this country to it's knees.
If you want to bandy around figures of people who are paid for doing nothing start at the top.

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Hi Louis there are over 30,000 people in the UK claiming £26,000 in benefits, the average weekly benefits paid out is approximately £500.
My other point was that the politicians also caused the downfall and should be included in the cull.
Salmond encouraged the RBS to buy the Dutch Bank without it (RBS) carrying out proper due diligence checks.
Labour through Brown weakened the BOE by creating the FSA, which meant that no one was in charge of the Banks.
Milliband announced that we we (the UK) were heading for a financial crash a year before it happened and they did nothing about it it.
I am not for one minute suggesting Bankers shouldn't pay, but politicians irrespective which party should also be brought to heel.
And as I said in my earlier post it is time to overhaul the benefits system, why should you get more for doing nothing?
The average weekly UK wage is about £575 per week.

they are the facts vic and cannot be dismissed........the payments are ridiculous......time and time again the the millions of pounds we who worked for and paid into the system goes to the idle and lazy .....brown and blair and miliband could see it coming but still because of the fear of there union paymasters...PUT THE BLINKERS ON.....they were running the country and never said a word the biggest eff upon words was brown ....no more boom or bust and my middle name is prudence ......they were not competent or brave enough to put country before party ......brown went of to scotland .....and was more difficult to find than saddam or ghadaffi ........but is now touring the world like bliar making a fortune on the backs of the british people they can duck and dive but cannot hide..........ps got my pension increase today for april next6.32 per week regards cappy

It was the Labour Government that sold off our Gold Reserves at the lowest price in history, that was the Nations wealth and it was given away for peanuts, only a crazed Nut Case would do that.
It was Labour who Raided our Pension Funds so reducing our Pensions. Only a Thief, or Bank Robber would do that, Their MP Pensions were untouched but also Increased, Only a Bent and corrrupt Government would do that So they will still Vote Labour because "I am Working Class" even tho` I have never worked and have no intention of working.
My Labour MP,nas Never answered one Letter , email or phone call over the last Five years. Now they want me to vote for a pig ignorant Labour MP.who spends most of her time overseas.
We also Have Andy Burnham who wants to be the Minister of Health Again, Another Con Man.
I wrote to him asking why I had to wait EIGHT Months in pain waiting for an operation, His reply?? "Dont you know you Do Not send emails to the Minister". Another ignorant Pig.
Again Andy Burnham, as Minister of Health,
"All hospital must have targets to increase Consultants and more Ethnic Consultants."
My son was a Senior Doctor in a famous London Hospital, He was teaching Junior Doctors.
He was told he would be promoted to Consultant in September.
August comes, No chance , they told him, Those two junior Doctors from Pakistan will both be promoted to Consultants above you, you will stay as you are and they will be Senior." "WHY" "Because we will meet our target of Increasing Consultants and Increasing our Ethnic number of Consultants, It keeps the Minister, Andy Burnham,, off our backs.
He told me that it was putting Patients lives at risk as those two junior Doctors had No experience at all but are now Consultants, all to meet Labours Targets in the NHS.
My son then packed it all in and went to work in California for Five years where the appreciate Good Doctors. It was the NHS Loss. He is back again now and is quite famous across the world in Liver and Pancreatic Diseases. So No Chance of him ever voting Labour ever again.
And people will still vote for Idiots like that to be in charge of peoples health.
Brian

why cant the people of this country not see it brian .....they call themselves friends of the working class......non of them are working class in the old term of the word.......labour was changed to new labour what was that about .....this country has never prospered under labour ever....the public servicesbecome bloated with people pushing paper from one desk to another desk to another desk and so it goes on........there has been millions cut inthe public services of these pen pushers and the system still works ....the idiot labour MPfor shields stood up i parliament and said the poor are so poor in south shields they are burying there dead in there back gardens .......on tryingto interview her the press and telly have not been able to get anywhere near her ...she is a typical shout wolf died in the wool labour donkey......any body knows its rubbish but the tale has hit the headlines.....god forbid that the people in charge of the NHS inwales get anywhere near the NHS in the UK WE ARE IN THE BEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE FINANCIALLY AT THIS TIME.....the onlyproblem is our benefits system is too good by far bringing the dross of the world to our country.......just lets watch the situation in greece were the left has now power .....givie it less than a year .......labour was ok in the 20s and 30s but like the unions people will not be treated as sheep again...the germans are shot the french are shot portugal spain the russians the greatest left of all on there knees all wanting to come here is it to see miliband and co i think not.....but still the donkeys will follow ...an ideology which should have died with the 3 day week ...only my view regards cappy

A lot whinge about Poverty,
They do not know what Poverty is.
I lived in the second half of the 30s and through WW2, There was poverty, no money, no benefits, had to pay the doctor,
I still have the Reciept for my Birth in 1935, It cost dad two weeks wages for mother to go into hospital to give birth to me. NO NHS then. They are whinging today when it is Free.
No work , No money, The man from the Parish would come to the door when dad was out of work due to the slump. Sell that wireles, [the old glass battery type, ] sell all those chairs, only two chairs allowed, Childer can stand.
and so it went on, when you had done that and showed that you had spent the money on food, then the Man from The Parish would give a little money.
We had to scramble on the tips where they dumped the clinker from the furnaces of the mills to get clinker to burn again on the fire to keep warm. no heating anywhere in the house. Just one gas mantle in the front kitchen and the other three rooms, back kitchen and two bed rooms had candles. Stone floors, no carpets, just a peg rug we made ourselves for us kids to sit on. Just one cold water tap in the back kitchen into a slop stone, a midden at the bottom of the yard to crap in.
If any one tells me there is poverty in this country then they are the biggest liars since tom pep. They do not know what Poverty is. I do, but we didnt know we were poor because everyone we knew was the same.
Britain is now the Home of whingers and whiners who get everything for nowt and do not give anything in return. I am disgusted in the way my fellow Britons behave and act today.

Brian

Not many people went into hospital in childbirth in those days Brian,my mother had eleven kids and never went into hostpital once.I was born in the backbedroom upstairs the women neighbours came in to deliver babies where I was brought up and in fact to "lay out" the dead.
Regards.
Jim.B.

dont forget according to balls we have child poverty .......but we have the most obese and overwieght children in europe ......so many live on mcdonalds and other takaways ......they cant compete with each other because ,,,,we musnt have losers....food banks so they can spend more on booze and ciggies bowing to minorities of religions so far from ours......and sadly so many with no shame whatsoeverwho in there seach for more money to feed there drug needs will rob 80 and 90 year old people .....they should be branded on the forehead so we no who they are......teachers who have classes out of control because of human rights........rapists from other countries coming herethieving and raping ...but cant be sent home because of human rights ....terrorists from foriegn countries jailed but there families claiming up to 26000 pounds a year while not working ......were is our men of iron now....perhaps its just to late we have lost our pride.....regards cappy