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    Default Covid vaccinations

    Could some kind person please help me to understand ;

    More and more we hear of the adverse effects of the covid vaccinations ; heart problems , embolisms etc.
    Here in the Netherlands it is a documented fact that the majority of those in hospital for covid related issues
    are vaccinated. Very few non-vaccinated are affected , yet ;

    the government is still fixated with compulsary vaccination and the introduction of a covid " passport " to make
    normal life possible. If a government insists in compulsary vaccination programs with something which has never
    been propertly tested , where the companies tried to keep information secret for 50 years , and which is now being
    proven to actually cause more complications than the illness it is intended to combat , can this be classed as murder
    or genicide ?.

    Just asking .

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    Default Re: Covid vaccinations

    The majority of people in hospital in the UK with covid are non vaccinated.
    It is a documentated fact that if you are fully vaccinated you can catch covid, but is only mild effects.
    You have been reading to many conspiracy theories. Lol.
    Vic

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    I cannot believe that anyone would still be peddling these theories after so much evidence supporting the success of the vaccination programme around the world. You definitely need to do more research and not on "social networks" where lies and mis-information are rampant

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    It is certainly what I believe , there are just too many reports of young healthy individuals around the world having heart related
    problems within days of being vaccinated. This is no coincidence . You cannot just say that evidence supporting the success of the vaccination
    is acceptable and evidence supporting the dangers of the vaccination is not . You cannot accept the one and dismiss the other just because it fits
    the greater picture .

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    A few minutes checking figures informed me as below.

    ACTIVE CASES

    60,861,103
    Currently Infected Patients
    60,789,538 (99.9%)
    in Mild Condition

    71,565 (0.1%)
    Serious or Critical


    The below figures are from Worldmeter cororona virus.
    There is much more to read but i have heavily edited the BHF findings.

    Total world cases

    384,818,919
    Cases which had an outcome:
    378,801,659 (98%)
    Recovered / Discharged


    Total world deaths

    6,017,260 (2%)
    Deaths


    From British Heart foundation website

    Can the Covid-19 vaccine cause myocarditis (heart inflammation)?
    There have been rare cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) following the Moderna and (even more rarely) Pfizer vaccine. Cases of myocarditis following the vaccine have usually been mild, and those affected have usually quickly felt better with rest and simple treatments. In most cases of myocarditis, heart function returns to normal. Because vaccine-associated myocarditis is a recent and rare issue there is uncertainty about its long-term health risks. Catching Covid-19 can also lead to myocarditis. We know about the rare cases of myocarditis thanks to the careful monitoring of the vaccine, which still continues.

Cases of myocarditis after the vaccine, while still very rare, are slightly less rare in children and young people. It's still the case that millions of children around the world have had a Covid vaccine, virtually all of them without complication.*

Who is at risk from myocarditis following the vaccine?
    Men are generally at higher risk of myocarditis than women, whether or not it is linked to the vaccine.Cases of heart inflammation (myocarditis or pericarditis) after the vaccine, while still very rare, are slightly less rare in children and younger adults (up to the age of 39) compared with older adults. 

In the UK up to 15 December 2021, there were 39 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis reported in 12-17 year-olds following the vaccine.

As a precaution, the interval between doses is longer for children than for adults, in order to reduce the small risk of developing myocarditis linked to the vaccine. Is there any link between the Covid-19 vaccine and cardiac arrests at football matches?
    No, there isn’t. There have been a number of cardiac arrests at football matches in recent months, amongst fans and players. But there is no evidence for any link to the vaccine, despite some misleading reports on social media. We can't even say for sure that there have been more cardiac arrests than usual. Research has showed that having previously had a coronavirus infection is much more likely than the Covid-19 vaccine to lead to heart problems – although these cardiac arrests may not be linked to coronavirus infection either.
    These rumours began after Denmark’s Christian Eriksen suffered on-field cardiac arrest during Euro 2020 in the summer. Inter Milan have since confirmed that he had not yet been vaccinated at the time of his collapse.
    The risk of getting myocarditis or pericarditis after the vaccine is very low. In the UK, even in the highest-risk age group (18-29) the incidence is a small 29 cases per million doses of the vaccine (based on data up to 15 December 2021). In other age groups the risk is even lower.
    
Even though myocarditis cases after the vaccine have usually been mild, it’s still important to get medical help.
    Are there still unanswered questions?
    We still need more research into myocarditis linked to the vaccine, including what any possible long-term effects might be. Research supported by the BHF is working to find out more about this. Although we don’t yet have all the answers, this isn’t necessarily a reason not to get the vaccine (or not to get your child vaccinated).*

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    Default Re: Covid vaccinations

    Here in Oz we have similar problems, so many stories on fake book, enough to write a book about them.

    Some facts about the AZ vaccine developed in UK by Oxford.
    This from my niece a senior radiographer in a major London hospital.

    Oxford had for some time been working on a base vaccine that could take the DNA of a virus into kit to produce a vaccine to combat the virus.
    When the virus hit they experimented for about 6 months until they got the correct combination.

    This vaccine is different to others as each dose contains a minute amount of the virus which gives it strength to combat the virus.

    Unlike Pfizer and the others all based on viral control similar to the Flu vaccine.

    Yes there have been a few problems with blood clots, but these are not blood clots as we know them, rather a problem with the platelets in the blood.
    Persons with this can have a reaction without the vaccine as the problem is there prior.
    Similar with the cardiomyalitis, that is in most instances already there in the patient.

    If we consider the world situation now to that when it all began in 2020 one would have to say we are now over the worst by a long way.
    Unfortunately there will always be those who think very differently and will easily be convinced that this is a con job.

    My advice, only take notice of your GP or similar qualified person if you have nay doubts.

    Norway, Iceland and Denmark I hear have now removed all restrictions.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

    Life is too short to blend in.

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