Identification needed for a sailing ship

[D Austin]

Hallo Sailors,

During a recent visit to a public school for the IWM a large model sailing ship was on the display. The school's archivist has no information on it and was asking about the ship and its name.

The attached images are of the model and I hope that somebody will be able to provide further info,

with many thanks,

David,

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[j.sabourn]

Well that saying hello sailors would sound more authentic as Hello thailors . However as you probably know it is a ship as had the appropriate rigging to attain that title , so is not a barque or a barquentine or others. Today she would be called a sailing vessel to meet the maritime knowledge of history by the present generation.And described in a dictionary as a vessel. There will hopefully be others on site who take an interest on sailing vessels so they may be able to put a name to her , all the best and hope for a quick answer . Cheers . The hello sailor was usually replied to with no money honey . JS...

[Keith Tindell]

This will be a difficult one, it could be as Lewis has suggested a real old timer, but at the same time we have many barquentine , three masted, sail training ships that are afloat and very much working today. Some one may have a better idea, kt

[Keith Tindell]

For example here is a Sail Trainer from days gone by,

https://sailtraininginternational.org/vessel/belem/

[Red Lead Ted]

HMS Trincomalee.

[Graham Shaw]

I cannot help here ,although I'm sure lots of suggestions will be expounded. I just wish to say that my 'flabber is gasted'.How very remiss of a fine centuries-old educational establishment like Rugby School not to have any record of how the model sailing ship with it's name of course ,came into the school's possession! Sack that school secretary or curator! There must be a record in the archives somewhere...I mean it's a model of a vessel which in maritime age terms isn't all that long ago,probably about 160 years or so.

I mean it can't have just been 'spirited' into that doubtless,musty-smelling old Chapel by an anonymous eccentric donor, an 'Old Rugbeian maybe '-a member of the shipbuilder's family,or an ex master of the vessel,or perhaps even Thomas Arnold himself who got tired of waiting for Airfix kits to be invented,and spent most ofl his days hidden in his Headmaster's study constructing the scale model of this ship ,in between swishing his cane on little boy's tender bottoms or squashing a ball into an egg shape and naming the new game rugby,after his school....

Oh dearie,dearie me.... I hope the name of the ship can be found.One suggestion someone made elsewhere was-try looking on the other side of the display case,because that may be the front view ,with the name on a little plaque.,and not the back which we are looking at in the photo....

At school,I always steered well clear of store rooms and chapels.

Graham

[Keith Tindell]

Probably built by the same shipyard that has some redundant submarines going cheap Lewis !!!!

[D Austin]

Thank you all for the responses, I had a good chuckle regarding the public school jibe having experienced a few years at a boarding school.

I will be visiting the model again in a few weeks time so will take the opportunity to have a look around the back of the case for a name, and to take some closeup shots. In the meantime will investigate further the suggested candidates.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to contribute,

David.

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[Bill Morrison]

Hi David. I have search all of my books on sailing ships and no exact match. There are a few likeness's mainly built 1850's to mid 1860's. Lewis's Parramatta is one, the Tweed and the Cospatrick are others. They were built to carry passengers as seen by the accommodation aft. Your photo's show a lot of accommodation but few life-boats which begs the question is it a copy of a ship or just a model. Good luck with your next visit to Rugby and hope you find some answers.
Bill

[Doc Vernon]

Just offhand i would say that it is just a very good Model based on the Sailing Ships of the era, as there is no name i am sure when built if it was a genuine Ship it would have had a name put on it!

Also there is i feel not enough detail on her to make it a real one , so just a good Model built for Display at that Chapel ??
Cheers


Just my thoughts though!