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13th April 2022, 07:11 AM
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Manchester to Chicago
What would have been the route for SS Manchester City in 1956?
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13th April 2022, 07:25 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
Assume from Liverpool to the St. Lawrence , depends on the time of the year ? could have been a Great Circle , a Composite Great Circle, or a Mercator course . If the second mate was drunk may of been via Trinidad or Bermuda.
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17th April 2022, 04:53 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
Robert, JS, causes me to laugh, along with many others on this site, as we know how major errors and near misses went unreported … heck, I was always relieved when land showed up just where I had told a passenger it would. Of course I had a height of eye advantage to make a course correction before anyone on the lower decks.
Seriously, Nonstop from Manchester out past Liverpool and drop the Pilot at the Bar Lightship. North in the Irish Sea leaving Isle of Mann to Starboard. Round Northern Ireland and, as JS wrote, take a Great Circle Course to Belle Isle into the St Lawrence. Would not have stopped at Quebec but surely did at Montreal ( Manchester Liners we’re always contenders for first ship of the season and winner of the silver cane). Up through the locks with possible stop in Cleveland but definitely Detroit. A possible stop in Milwaukee ( The pilferage free port ), finally Chicago.
Earliest arrival would be mid April and had to be out of Chicago by mid November if wanted to clear the Lakes before freeze up. One or two ships would get caught early on and spend winter in one or other of the Lakes. Hope that helps. Keith.
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17th April 2022, 05:06 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
It’s less than what a lot of people think Keith 1.153 x the square root of the height of eye in feet to the distance of the visible horizon . In nautical miles of course . JS ....
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18th April 2022, 01:16 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
Robert, the Manchester City wouldn't have been able to get to Chicago in 1956 as she was too big. She only managed it when the Seaway opened in 1959. Ships did go to Chicago in 1956 but they were only 258 feet long so as to fit the locks on the old Seaway. I was up there on the Manchester Vanguard in 1956.
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18th April 2022, 06:03 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago

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It’s less than what a lot of people think Keith 1.153 x the square root of the height of eye in feet to the distance of the visible horizon . In nautical miles of course . JS ....
Mate square root was good any where you could get it, but 1.5 is bit rough, must have got cut off half way.


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18th April 2022, 11:07 AM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
That is brilliant Keith
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18th April 2022, 12:02 PM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
Keith,
Know which ones got caught up in the lake?
Wonder how long they were stuck there?
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18th April 2022, 12:08 PM
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Re: Manchester to Chicago
Manchester Halifax St John Manchester
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18th April 2022, 12:14 PM
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#6 Naw John your thinking of cinnamon root. Not 1.5 but 1.153 . JS
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