I wont blame her for that Rob,but then again i'm not sure.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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I wont blame her for that Rob,but then again i'm not sure.
Regards.
Jim.B.
Ivan,
Thanks to John in W.A. I understand where you are coming from with your answer to my post, and I agree.
Cheers, Rodney
A little bit more research required on your part Jim, with all due respect I think you may find it was a Labour Govt started the ball rolling, guess it must have been all the Tory voters living in Council Houses that bought them, as I feel sure that no Labour supporter would betray the party by taking advantage of owning a cheap house of their own............silly me, what was I thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Brady
Why on earth do some people think that other people owe them a living and accommodation, most of us oldies on here started from nowt and wi'out two appenies to rub together, but we didn't expect others to feather our nest, we got off our backsides and made our way without fancy educations, and don't tell me it's different today, I know many young people who left school at 16 worked, scrimped and saved and got their foot on the property ladder in their 20's. Too many find it easier to moan than work, sorry I've no sympathy for bludgers, but then again I've never been a socialist, because although they preach equality those at the top still have their snouts in the trough at the expense of the supposedly downtrodden, your only downtrodden if you let other buggers walk over you or are too bloody lazy to get of your ass...................sorry if that upsets you
Mum and dad bought their council house for about 17,000 and after they passed away my sister sold it, about ten years later, for 57,000. But I have mixed feelings about council/gov owned and rented property. There are those in society who at times need assistance but at times I do believe the gov goes too far, this makes for a weak nation dependent on hand outs. Wew all began with nothing, I still have most of mine left, and with hard work made something of ourselves and provided for our families.
Here in Oz we have Housing comission propertied rented out by the state gov. A plan was put forwrd by a guy who had seen the system in NZ.There if you have gov assisted housing you only get it for 5 years and if by chance your situation improves prior to that then out you go and find your own. Maybe that was what the Labor party was thinking at the time!
But themost interesting part of the SNP debate is the fact thta the leader of the British Labor party is advocating a no vote. But of course with a yes vote there is a good chance Labour would never be in power again in England.
to tie in a couple of threads here now the young aid worker being threatened of beheading by this isis mob he is Scottish and being so a united kingdom subject? are you with me so far?? now the Americans are looking for countries to go in with them to have a go only from the air{so far} now getting to the point if Scotland breaks away from the union are we waiting for the result of the referendum to pass the book weather or not to go against isis ? politics is after all a very dirty business ???just a thought..jp
Yes it's OK talking of the past and how we bought our own homes but imagine a young couple today having to find £20k/£30k how long would it take you to save that.So it was'nt Maggie that sold off the housing stock,she certainly courted the publicity of it how come she was on TV handing over the first council house to the tennant.Lots of the council flats in London where bought by the tennant then snapped up by landlords (sorry Property Developers) for a knock down price these property developers have now got thick portfolios of ex-council properties charging the earth in rent so who are the winners here.How many of our parents owned their own home,it's not a matter of a nanny state social housing is a necessity for those people who are unfortunate enough to be earning £7.00 an hour or less.I have'nt come across many seaman with a selfish attitude "pull the ladder up Jack I'm alright" so just think does'nt everyone deserve somewhere fit to live in even if they are on a low wage and cant afford the deposit to get onto the property ladder.
Regards.
Jim.B.
a lot of right to buy was to break strikes. a long term strike you could loose your house paying rent to a corporation well they could wait but a banker with an eye for profit is a totally different thing so could you afford to go on strike for anything for fear of being homeless and out of pocket it was well thought out??ever know a government giving you with one hand and not taking anything back?jp
Here is Maggie handing over the house.
Regards.
Jim.B.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...il-houses.html
I bought our first house off Southampton council in 1974 and sold it on five years later , the picture in the Telegraph is 1980 , I had bought sold and moved on by then , Southampton labour councillors living in council houses mostly bought too , but when the majority changed they voted against it . The houses sold to developers in London and a lot of Londoners moved to the coast .
I was born in a Slum, known as Candle Alley, it was due for demolition in the 1930s, we had no electric, one gas mantle , one cold water tap, cook on the coal fire, scrambling on the tip to get clinker for the fire. a midden at the bottom of the yard shovelled out by the Night Soil men. and bugs crawling out of the plaster. Three of us in one bed.
I Remember it well and will never forget it.
NO BENEFITS, NO CHILD ALLOWANCE, NO HOUSING BENEFITS, NOTHING.
Today they have it made. One Benefit opens the door to ten other Benefits.
Why do they whinge. they do not know what poverty is. Today poverty is a child who does not have a mobile phone or an I-Pad, living in a Council House with a new gas Central heating and a garden, a bathroom, and three bedrooms with TVs, they get more money than my Dad did for working and he was bringing up Five children with NO Benefits, not one penny, if you dont pay the rent you were thrown on the street. and then to the Work House.
I feel so sorry for the people today who have it all from the Tax Payer. We got Nowt but we got out of it.
We got an old Council House that was bult in 1920 at a cost of £200, Mother paid rent on that for 52 years before she died. NO Housing Benefit, just an old age pension after a lifetime of working in a Cotton Mill that gave her Bysinosis lung cancer, and died coughing her lungs up. Just before she died, the house was offered to her for £7,000, I told her to forget it, she had paid more than that in rent in 52 years.
I get pissed off with whingers who think it is their Right for tax payers to look after them.
There are jobs out there, but sometimes the Benefits are worth more than the wages of working.
I went ashore when I got married and starting a family, I was in work and then out of work find a job and then a few months later out of a job,A big mortgage to pay.; SO I went back to sea as an AB, I knew this time my first priority was to earn money and not play around as I used to do as a Seaman.
Sure I missed my two young sons growing up, but I had to provide for them and Not The State.
So I made the most of it, I started at the age of 40 to study and then went to college again and again up to Master, because I knew I could earn money for my family, I did not want the tax payer to pay for my family, The opportunities are there if people make the effort, So I have No sympathy for anyone who wants the easy life on the State.
I cannot get one penny in Benefits, because I bought a Pension instead of going in the Ale House. So I now Pay Income Tax on my miserable Pension so the Benefit families who cannot be bothered to work enjoy the System that I never had.
Brian.